[HN Gopher] Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin
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       Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin
        
       Author : donsupreme
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2021-04-11 21:04 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.bloomberg.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bloomberg.com)
        
       | xwdv wrote:
       | When visiting Austin what are the number one places a Silicon
       | Valley resident should go to for networking?
        
         | EarthLaunch wrote:
         | San Francisco. Just kidding. Although that's what I did.
         | 
         | It's weird right now due to Covid, but obviously incubators
         | like Capital Factory or (if it's still going) Tech Ranch.
         | 
         | Apart from that, well, culture is online now.
        
       | TypeCaste wrote:
       | Are the tax benefits of Texas offset by Austin's rising home
       | prices, and the proportional increase owed in property taxes?
        
         | rossdavidh wrote:
         | The cost of housing in Austin is definitely higher than
         | surrounding parts of Texas, and rising. However, nowhere near
         | Silicon Valley levels.
        
       | Snoozle wrote:
       | I used to live in Austin in 2007 until 2013. Even back then the
       | transition to tech hub was well underway. We went from the
       | Portland of the south to a yuppie paradise in fairly short order.
       | Who can say whether the changes are good or bad? They're going to
       | happen either way. We traded weird restaurants and way too much
       | hipster music for tech bros and planned areas like the domain.
       | They both have their charms and their annoyances.
       | 
       | On a related note, we live in an age of mass communication.
       | Cities that become cool become migration magnets due to
       | widespread knowledge and relative ease of relocation. See:
       | 
       | Boulder Portland asheville nashville bend boise missoula Austin
       | tacoma, others I'm sure.
       | 
       | I view it as a net negative because part of the reason these
       | 'weird' cities came to be was the needs of the locals who already
       | lived there. Nowadays some liberal musician will just move to
       | city X instead of giving their personality to the area around
       | them.
        
         | rossdavidh wrote:
         | I mostly agree. I should point out, however, that my wife and I
         | both came from small towns in southern Illinois, which are the
         | same size (actually slightly smaller) they were decades ago. It
         | isn't better.
        
         | jseliger wrote:
         | Austin prohibits adequate housing from being built:
         | https://austin.curbed.com/2020/1/30/21115370/austin-
         | housing-..., which is likely driving up the cost of living in
         | the city--just like California.
         | 
         | Without liberalizing zoning laws, Austin will likely continue
         | to see the exact same effects as California. This can be
         | changed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16704501 if
         | enough people want it to change.
        
           | rossdavidh wrote:
           | While Austin's zoning laws could definitely be better, there
           | is tons of housing being built even now. I see large numbers
           | being built at the edge of town. Not saying there's not
           | problems, especially for new construction in old
           | neighborhoods, but it's not like there isn't a lot of
           | construction happening.
        
       | rossdavidh wrote:
       | So, I'm an Austin resident, and programmer, who lived in the
       | south Bay from 1989-1992 before moving to Texas. So, I am feeling
       | a little ambivalent, and also hypocritical, about the recent
       | influx of Californians. But, I can tell you that the basics of
       | the Bloomberg article definitely seem to be legit. Lots of
       | California license plates on cars in Austin lately.
        
       | politelemon wrote:
       | I'm seeing a lot of "ifs" and "shoulds". As an outsider looking
       | in, it appears there's nothing in place to prevent the SV
       | problems from arising in Austin.
       | 
       | Do these tech companies realise what's going to happen, or is it
       | going to be wrapped up as part of the cost of doing business,
       | before they move on to someplace else. I'm now imagining a
       | tornado of tech companies travelling across the country ravaging
       | economies in its wake, with a periodic exodus of tech folk
       | travelling in a procession of Teslas slowly making their way in
       | Boring tunnels.
       | 
       | Maybe all that is just extrapolation and there are examples of
       | tech friendly cities which haven't been affected in the same way.
        
         | rossdavidh wrote:
         | Not sure if Austin will do what's needed, but one thing I can
         | say is it is a big topic of discussion, by old residents and
         | new. So, this doesn't by any means guarantee effective action,
         | but it's certainly on everyone's radar.
        
         | spaced-out wrote:
         | >I'm now imagining a tornado of tech companies travelling
         | across the country ravaging economies in its wake, with a
         | periodic exodus of tech folk travelling in a procession of
         | Teslas slowly making their way in Boring tunnels.
         | 
         | You know, a lot of us are just people in their late 20s/early
         | 30s, just looking for a place to settle down and raise a
         | family.
        
       | DivisionSol wrote:
       | I am moving to Austin very shortly from the Bay Area.
       | 
       | Rent is 1/2 as cheap for 2x the sq ft, and property values still
       | currently with in the stratosphere (unlike the Bay Area). No
       | income tax.
       | 
       | Hopefully Austin acts quick and starts building new/upgrading
       | existing buildings to accommodate the growth that's happening.
        
         | rossdavidh wrote:
         | Well one thing that helped a bit is that the governor did not
         | allow the city to stop construction at any point, even when
         | lots of other stuff was locked down last April. But, even with
         | non-stop building, it's falling behind.
        
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