[HN Gopher] Mastodon Renaming "Toots" to "Posts" ___________________________________________________________________ Mastodon Renaming "Toots" to "Posts" Author : pitermach Score : 63 points Date : 2021-04-20 21:53 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (github.com) (TXT) w3m dump (github.com) | Blikkentrekker wrote: | Where does it say in the discussion that it was accepted? | | Someone suggested that it be done, and most seem to be against | and no conclusion has been reached at the bottom, as far as I can | tell. | tosh wrote: | Gargron is the lead developer of Mastodon | Arnavion wrote: | That doesn't mean the PR is guaranteed to be merged, let | alone already merged, as the submission title implies. | tosh wrote: | it doesn't, I added the comment for context in case other | readers are not aware (@ "someone") | xiaq wrote: | AFAICT the PR author is actually the #1 developer of Mastodon | and also authored the original change of renaming "posts" to | "toots". | kgwxd wrote: | It shows "Changes Approved" at the bottom. I've never done any | collaboration work on github, does that mean it's happening? | ufo wrote: | It means that another mastodon developer (ykzts) reviewed and | approved the code. However, the commits haven't been merged | to the main branch yet. | detaro wrote: | no, that just means someone has given approval. The more | relevant bit to "will this be merged" is that Gargron is | pretty much the BDFL of Mastodon. | [deleted] | imgabe wrote: | As someone who doesn't use Mastadon, I immediately went to the | toots -> farts connection. | | I get that a Mastadon is an elephant, elephants trumpet or | "toot", so, toot is a post. A lot of people are going to think of | farts though. | myself248 wrote: | I didn't realize they were meant to be trumpets, I thought it | was a deliberate lambasting of the implied quality of tweets or | whatever. | | Huh. Posts it shall be. | LegitShady wrote: | >I thought it was a deliberate lambasting of the implied | quality of tweets | | You are not alone | bscphil wrote: | Likewise, I've never heard it used in a different way. At | best, in my head, it was an onomotopoeia that could be used | for the sound a kazoo or paper trumpet makes... but usually a | fart. | skierguy wrote: | Same. As an American, I would be much less likely to use or | spread good word about a product that centered around the act | of "tooting". Our culture sees the word as silly, childish, and | a bit gross. I could get used to it eventually, but if it's the | first thing I see about the product, I'm probably going to find | something else to use that doesn't make me think of farting or | introduce fart terminology into my everyday word choice. | tarboreus wrote: | Yes. If you wanted to be charitable, the other connotation is | tooting your own horn, which isn't that great either. | Bragging is better than farts, though. | inopinatus wrote: | Being a native English speaker from another country I don't | have have this allusion at all, and have to dig quite deep to | remember that Americans do. | | I do get _tootsuite_ = > _toute de suite_ i.e. a sense of | immediacy, the present moment, alongside the onomatopoeic | elephant. | | Hard-bitten cynical take: notwithstanding the denial of the | PR, that original author knew the allusion, and that it has | parochial scope, i.e. they actively intended to annoy | Americans, and in particular those with a prim streak. | 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: | I take it as self deprecating. Most things people write online | is shit- including my comment. Get off your high horse, you | aren't special, you're making farting noises online. | hprotagonist wrote: | i demand /s/toot/poot/g ! | throwawaymanbot wrote: | This is very mature of them. | | (Now maybe i can stop giggling when someone mentions tooting, i | mean.. "posting" stuff on mastodon.) | quesera wrote: | I approve. | | No one asked me, but if they had, I'd have opined that the pre- | cuting of your nomenclature is usually the result of too much | time spent thinking about branding and not enough time building | features. | | Note that "tweet" was spawned organically by the community, and | Twitter did not adopt the word formally for a couple years after | it was in popular use. | bogwog wrote: | > is usually the result of too much time spent thinking about | branding and not enough time building features. | | Uh, I think you might have it backwards there. The Mastodon | folks probably didn't spend enough time thinking about | branding. | marcinzm wrote: | I feel it's more that they spent too much thinking about | branding but they were just not very good at it. | bscphil wrote: | > The word "toot" is a part of mastodon, it fits, people know | what you mean. If you take that away you take away a part of | mastodon's soul. | | Proof people will react dramatically to basically any change, I | guess. | | More importantly, as Blikkentrekker has pointed out, this hasn't | been merged yet, and in fact from the comments seems to be very | unpopular. Possibly it won't be merged at all. | ggggtez wrote: | > people know what you mean | | If someone tells me "hey wanna toot with me" I certainly don't | think I'd have a clue what they meant. | agogdog wrote: | I prefer to opt for the more fun option, but it's generally an | immaterial change. | okareaman wrote: | Toot (Oxford Languages): a snort of a drug, especially cocaine. | "he still likes a toot" | AdmiralAsshat wrote: | I'll be sad to see "toots" go away. I understand it was | unintentional (I believe an interview with the creator on a | podcast stated: "As for 'toots'...[he] just thought that was the | sound an elephant makes."), but as a commentary on the average | quality of discourse on social media, it was _brilliant_. | bigyikes wrote: | I know little about Mastodon, but it seems like somebody went out | of their way to make the cringiest sounding product possible. | "Hey man, I just tooted on mastodon!" It really sounds like | parody. I hope I am just missing the point. | | You might say this is a superficial criticism, but I think naming | is important when it comes to social appeal. At least, it becomes | important when the naming has gone so horribly wrong. | | If they're changing course there might be hope yet. | dsabanin wrote: | I just googled Mastodon, and I think you're right. Now I'm | going to go tweet about it. | TulliusCicero wrote: | Even when 'google' as a verb was brand new, I don't remember | it sounding awkward. | agogdog wrote: | Many people felt the same way about tweeting. I doubt it makes | enough of a difference to matter one way or the other. | solarkraft wrote: | How sad to see this piece of culture fading (or maybe it's not?). | Luckily the Mastodon code base is merely a recommendation and | lots of instances use custom names. I can see many sticking with | toots. | egypturnash wrote: | They're still gonna be "rars" on my instance, whatever Garg does | on his. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-04-20 23:00 UTC)