[HN Gopher] Mastodon Renaming "Toots" to "Posts"
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       Mastodon Renaming "Toots" to "Posts"
        
       Author : pitermach
       Score  : 63 points
       Date   : 2021-04-20 21:53 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | Blikkentrekker wrote:
       | Where does it say in the discussion that it was accepted?
       | 
       | Someone suggested that it be done, and most seem to be against
       | and no conclusion has been reached at the bottom, as far as I can
       | tell.
        
         | tosh wrote:
         | Gargron is the lead developer of Mastodon
        
           | Arnavion wrote:
           | That doesn't mean the PR is guaranteed to be merged, let
           | alone already merged, as the submission title implies.
        
             | tosh wrote:
             | it doesn't, I added the comment for context in case other
             | readers are not aware (@ "someone")
        
         | xiaq wrote:
         | AFAICT the PR author is actually the #1 developer of Mastodon
         | and also authored the original change of renaming "posts" to
         | "toots".
        
         | kgwxd wrote:
         | It shows "Changes Approved" at the bottom. I've never done any
         | collaboration work on github, does that mean it's happening?
        
           | ufo wrote:
           | It means that another mastodon developer (ykzts) reviewed and
           | approved the code. However, the commits haven't been merged
           | to the main branch yet.
        
           | detaro wrote:
           | no, that just means someone has given approval. The more
           | relevant bit to "will this be merged" is that Gargron is
           | pretty much the BDFL of Mastodon.
        
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       | imgabe wrote:
       | As someone who doesn't use Mastadon, I immediately went to the
       | toots -> farts connection.
       | 
       | I get that a Mastadon is an elephant, elephants trumpet or
       | "toot", so, toot is a post. A lot of people are going to think of
       | farts though.
        
         | myself248 wrote:
         | I didn't realize they were meant to be trumpets, I thought it
         | was a deliberate lambasting of the implied quality of tweets or
         | whatever.
         | 
         | Huh. Posts it shall be.
        
           | LegitShady wrote:
           | >I thought it was a deliberate lambasting of the implied
           | quality of tweets
           | 
           | You are not alone
        
           | bscphil wrote:
           | Likewise, I've never heard it used in a different way. At
           | best, in my head, it was an onomotopoeia that could be used
           | for the sound a kazoo or paper trumpet makes... but usually a
           | fart.
        
         | skierguy wrote:
         | Same. As an American, I would be much less likely to use or
         | spread good word about a product that centered around the act
         | of "tooting". Our culture sees the word as silly, childish, and
         | a bit gross. I could get used to it eventually, but if it's the
         | first thing I see about the product, I'm probably going to find
         | something else to use that doesn't make me think of farting or
         | introduce fart terminology into my everyday word choice.
        
           | tarboreus wrote:
           | Yes. If you wanted to be charitable, the other connotation is
           | tooting your own horn, which isn't that great either.
           | Bragging is better than farts, though.
        
           | inopinatus wrote:
           | Being a native English speaker from another country I don't
           | have have this allusion at all, and have to dig quite deep to
           | remember that Americans do.
           | 
           | I do get _tootsuite_ = > _toute de suite_ i.e. a sense of
           | immediacy, the present moment, alongside the onomatopoeic
           | elephant.
           | 
           | Hard-bitten cynical take: notwithstanding the denial of the
           | PR, that original author knew the allusion, and that it has
           | parochial scope, i.e. they actively intended to annoy
           | Americans, and in particular those with a prim streak.
        
         | 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
         | I take it as self deprecating. Most things people write online
         | is shit- including my comment. Get off your high horse, you
         | aren't special, you're making farting noises online.
        
       | hprotagonist wrote:
       | i demand /s/toot/poot/g !
        
       | throwawaymanbot wrote:
       | This is very mature of them.
       | 
       | (Now maybe i can stop giggling when someone mentions tooting, i
       | mean.. "posting" stuff on mastodon.)
        
       | quesera wrote:
       | I approve.
       | 
       | No one asked me, but if they had, I'd have opined that the pre-
       | cuting of your nomenclature is usually the result of too much
       | time spent thinking about branding and not enough time building
       | features.
       | 
       | Note that "tweet" was spawned organically by the community, and
       | Twitter did not adopt the word formally for a couple years after
       | it was in popular use.
        
         | bogwog wrote:
         | > is usually the result of too much time spent thinking about
         | branding and not enough time building features.
         | 
         | Uh, I think you might have it backwards there. The Mastodon
         | folks probably didn't spend enough time thinking about
         | branding.
        
           | marcinzm wrote:
           | I feel it's more that they spent too much thinking about
           | branding but they were just not very good at it.
        
       | bscphil wrote:
       | > The word "toot" is a part of mastodon, it fits, people know
       | what you mean. If you take that away you take away a part of
       | mastodon's soul.
       | 
       | Proof people will react dramatically to basically any change, I
       | guess.
       | 
       | More importantly, as Blikkentrekker has pointed out, this hasn't
       | been merged yet, and in fact from the comments seems to be very
       | unpopular. Possibly it won't be merged at all.
        
         | ggggtez wrote:
         | > people know what you mean
         | 
         | If someone tells me "hey wanna toot with me" I certainly don't
         | think I'd have a clue what they meant.
        
       | agogdog wrote:
       | I prefer to opt for the more fun option, but it's generally an
       | immaterial change.
        
       | okareaman wrote:
       | Toot (Oxford Languages): a snort of a drug, especially cocaine.
       | "he still likes a toot"
        
       | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
       | I'll be sad to see "toots" go away. I understand it was
       | unintentional (I believe an interview with the creator on a
       | podcast stated: "As for 'toots'...[he] just thought that was the
       | sound an elephant makes."), but as a commentary on the average
       | quality of discourse on social media, it was _brilliant_.
        
       | bigyikes wrote:
       | I know little about Mastodon, but it seems like somebody went out
       | of their way to make the cringiest sounding product possible.
       | "Hey man, I just tooted on mastodon!" It really sounds like
       | parody. I hope I am just missing the point.
       | 
       | You might say this is a superficial criticism, but I think naming
       | is important when it comes to social appeal. At least, it becomes
       | important when the naming has gone so horribly wrong.
       | 
       | If they're changing course there might be hope yet.
        
         | dsabanin wrote:
         | I just googled Mastodon, and I think you're right. Now I'm
         | going to go tweet about it.
        
           | TulliusCicero wrote:
           | Even when 'google' as a verb was brand new, I don't remember
           | it sounding awkward.
        
         | agogdog wrote:
         | Many people felt the same way about tweeting. I doubt it makes
         | enough of a difference to matter one way or the other.
        
       | solarkraft wrote:
       | How sad to see this piece of culture fading (or maybe it's not?).
       | Luckily the Mastodon code base is merely a recommendation and
       | lots of instances use custom names. I can see many sticking with
       | toots.
        
       | egypturnash wrote:
       | They're still gonna be "rars" on my instance, whatever Garg does
       | on his.
        
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