[HN Gopher] InfiniTime 1.0
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InfiniTime 1.0
Author : thedday
Score : 176 points
Date : 2021-04-24 14:44 UTC (8 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.pine64.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.pine64.org)
| tluyben2 wrote:
| Offtopic: anyone have an idea when the tablet will be back?
| bArray wrote:
| Checkout their latest update - but basically in the next 3
| months I believe. But of course that all depends on the
| manufacturing situation, you literally have automotive giants
| pausing production due to shortages.
| Abishek_Muthian wrote:
| If you're unable to ship PineTime to your country and if you're
| looking for a watch to tinker with checkout wasp-os[1] project
| which runs micropython on some easily available NRF52832 devices.
|
| Also Aaron's ATCWatch[2] which runs Arduino compatbile firmware
| on the aforementioned devices and more; His Daflasher app has
| made it possible to flash firmware to to NRF52832 devices without
| any HW tinkering.
|
| [1] https://github.com/daniel-thompson/wasp-os
|
| [2] https://github.com/atc1441/ATCwatch
| ruph123 wrote:
| Is there any such device with an OLED or e-ink display? All of
| the above mentioned have IPS panels and things like watchy with
| an eink display are not really for fitness tracking and don't
| have a HR monitor. I wish there was a Pebble in 2021.
| m-p-3 wrote:
| As the owner of several "smartwatch" with a transflective
| display (Pebble, Pebble Steel, Pebble Time Steel and Amazfit
| Bip), it does make a huge difference in battery life and I
| wouldn't downgrade to a smartwatch with a battery life of
| under a week.
| summm wrote:
| Would have been nice if there was some kind of unbrickable
| bootloader for the sealed version. Many other devices have, for
| example, usb, which would allow for DFU or fastboot. Also, some
| more and better health sensors such as spo2. Buy hey, a
| trustworthy non-cloud smartwatch for $25 ? Shut up and take my
| money!
| TT-392 wrote:
| If you really want something really hard to brick, I'd
| recommend going pinetime with wasp os, that has a bootloader
| that doesn't even need a working os to be able to flash.
| terramex wrote:
| Infinitime uses DFU over Bluetooth and is non-brickable. Well,
| at least I didn't brick my dev-kit single time.
| summm wrote:
| They explicitly warn about doing development on sealed
| versions, so I figured it is not really unbrickable.
| wongarsu wrote:
| If you modify the bootloader you can brick it. The most
| likely scenario is that you switch to a different OS, which
| often requires changing to a modified bootloader, and
| something goes wrong. But you can't brick it with regular
| OS or application development
| tyingq wrote:
| Looks interesting. Some scale reference in the pictures would be
| helpful. Either this person has a pretty small wrist, or the
| watch is quite large: https://www.pine64.org/wp-
| content/uploads/2021/04/PineTimeHR...
| simlevesque wrote:
| He 100% has a small wrist. I own the dev kit and it's smaller
| than many smartwatch on the market.
| Avamander wrote:
| It's also probably the camera amplifying that effect.
| TT-392 wrote:
| Small wrist, I have a pinetime, it is a pretty comfortable
| size.
| myself248 wrote:
| Is there a good overview of the ecosystem? I still can't figure
| out what amazfish actually does and whether it has anything to do
| with Amazon.
| Avamander wrote:
| This wiki page might help a bit, it lists a bunch of different
| available software that relates to the PineTime:
| https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PineTime_Development
| gostsamo wrote:
| It requires Sailfish, so it seems to be a companion app, but
| for Sailfish OS.
| Avamander wrote:
| It actually works on any Linux that can run Qt stuff and has
| Bluetooth.
| acidburnNSA wrote:
| I clicked on the "buy" button. Wow is it really $24.99 for the
| watch!? That's awesome. Might have to trade in my Casio after
| all.
| maxbaines wrote:
| I was about to comment on the quality looking at the pictures
| but for 24.99 I will take that back. Good work.
| jasonjayr wrote:
| ...... aaaaaand sold out already. That's a good price for a
| hackable smartwatch.
| wongarsu wrote:
| The pinetime is almost identical with the Colmi P8. The P8 is
| about $30 and has a worse motion sensor, but is otherwise
| nearly the same, is easy to get, and is supported by most
| pinetime operating systems
| lostmsu wrote:
| The official website now shows it as $45
| A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
| Damn, out of stock already. I was genuinely curious. Anyone knows
| how often they get restocked?
| montroser wrote:
| So, how close are we to living in the 1980s future I grew up with
| where Penny and Inspector Gadget are seamlessly video chatting
| through their watches?
| Mediterraneo10 wrote:
| The PineTime is a very underpowered device that is really only
| capable of showing messages from a nearby smartphone. It
| doesn't even run Linux, it runs a low-footprint firmware. Don't
| expect to video chat through it.
| Y_Y wrote:
| It's got a 64MHz cortex M4. It won't do 4k h.265, but you
| could definitely stream crappy low-res video. You'd need an
| external camera too though.
| TT-392 wrote:
| The display is controlled over an 8MHz spi bus, you can
| only write to it as a bitmap (no functions to draw stuff
| like lines or filled rectangles) you give a square to draw
| in, and then a rectangle to bitmap to draw in the square.
| With the speed of the spi bus, the max speed you'll be able
| to update the entire display at is 8fps.
| m-p-3 wrote:
| And to be honest I'm mostly looking for notifications and
| some info available at a glance when I'm looking at a
| "smartwatch".
|
| I currently have an Amazfit Bip paired to Gadgetbridge, but
| I'd definitely like to see something less proprietary on my
| wrist. Crossing my fingers to see a transflective display
| version one day for an even longer battery lifetime.
| lostgame wrote:
| The inclusion of a camera on a watch unfortunately would 1)
| take up a lot of space and 2) move around _a lot_.
|
| I'm not sure it'll ever be popular.
| montroser wrote:
| I both do and don't want to believe that someday soon enough
| a generative AI will be able to take what it knows about me
| and my mannerisms, and combine that with an image of two of
| me looking into the camera in the moment, along with my voice
| audio stream, and out of all of that, create a totally
| convincing video feed of me speaking for the person on the
| other end of the call
| TheCraiggers wrote:
| The shaky video could easily be fixed with some anti-shake
| algorithms. Well, "easily" in that it's already a solved
| problem.
| zikzak wrote:
| I had a hard time finding the water resistance specs but they are
| on the wiki [0]: IP Rating: IP67 (waterproof to 1 meter (sealed
| edition!))
|
| [0] https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineTime#Default_OS
| tempest_ wrote:
| I am not super into the smart watch stuff but I do like what
| PinePhone is trying to do.
|
| Hopefully I can get a few more years out of my oneplus and then
| maybe the mobile linux distros and hardware will have matured
| enough that they are a viable alternative to android.
| siriuz wrote:
| Is it a sustainable product?
| schmorptron wrote:
| For their other products like the PineBook Pro and the
| PinePhone, I think they did commit to selling replacement parts
| for a long time.
| Avamander wrote:
| Unlikely, but probably more sustainable than a smartwatch that
| can't be repaired or firmware replaced.
| dillondoyle wrote:
| Does anyone know how good and accurate this heart rate monitor?
| OR know of a good one-time-cost ideally open sport fitness
| focused watch?
|
| I would LOVE for someone to hack the Whoop. It's not
| accurate/good enough, nor insightful enough, for me to want to
| keep paying $30 a month. but a one time cost and an open
| community to patch it to match individual use cases would be
| completely worth even a couple hundred upfront.
| bArray wrote:
| The heart rate monitor is pretty decent, I've been daily
| driving mine for quite a while now and am more than happy with
| it.
| Jarwain wrote:
| I've been pretty happy with my vivosmart, and there are
| libraries for pulling data off of it. It's not open in the same
| way this project is, though
| miguelrochefort wrote:
| Since it's out of stock, I would recommend getting the Colmi P8
| from AliExpress. It's $20 and the hardware is almost identical to
| the PineTime. InfiniTime and Wasp-OS both run pretty well on
| mine.
| marricks wrote:
| Any thoughts on if the Colmi P8 plus still run ok?
| Jiejeing wrote:
| Hardware-wise I would say the different screen with a
| slightly higher resolution could be an issue, but I have
| neither watches and don't know how adaptative OSes like
| infinitime are.
| TT-392 wrote:
| Most of the osses arw pretty non adaptive, I really
| wouldn't count on it, unless you are willing to do quite a
| bit of work
| mfontani wrote:
| Compared to an amazfit, which is a similar style smartwatch, the
| battery life is atrocious - only a few days?
|
| Is there any work done to improve the battery life? Ideally, a
| month (or so) on a charge would be best.
| poisonborz wrote:
| It doesn't have a transreflective display which provides the
| gains. I really don't understand why - maybe they are hard to
| source?
|
| But yeah I would pay a LOT more for an open Amazfit Bip with a
| great community. To note, the Bip does have an alternative
| firmware, but its somewhat niche and unknown.
| edoceo wrote:
| yea, I love this little watch. got a 3 pack. updates didn't brick
| me. still haven't made my little app for it :( maybe this
| weekend.
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