[HN Gopher] Fediverse.Party - Explore Federated Networks
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       Fediverse.Party - Explore Federated Networks
        
       Author : eitland
       Score  : 69 points
       Date   : 2021-05-01 20:20 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | riffic wrote:
       | I keep saying this particular ecosystem is healthy and vibrant.
        
       | atweiden wrote:
       | It's notable how prevalent AGPLv3 licensing is all throughout the
       | Fediverse. This, and the fact user accounts are decoupled from
       | the federated frontends present a radically different incentive
       | structure for providers compared to the traditional model of
       | social media.
       | 
       | You can feel the impact this has when browsing PeerTube: eclectic
       | videos -- a good sign of a burgeoning ecosystem -- but with video
       | buffering rates seemingly decades behind YT.
       | 
       | I'm actually a huge fan of the fediverse. But if PeerTube in
       | particular wants to hit it big, there are some serious
       | scalability issues which need to be addressed, despite fediverse
       | development being largely antithetical to profit.
        
         | mattl wrote:
         | Mastodon was very nearly not AGPL. I asked them to fix it very
         | early on. Issue 1 or 2 on the GitHub tracker.
         | 
         | Edit: 49. https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/49
        
           | riffic wrote:
           | for someone who doesn't know better, what is the benefit to
           | AGPL and what license were they using originally?
           | 
           | found the issue btw:
           | https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/49
        
         | pessimizer wrote:
         | This is something I've never heard about, but are there any
         | projects who license AGPL but offer paid relicensing to GPLv2?
         | With customers paying for permission to keep private their
         | modifications to a hosted service?
        
       | yosito wrote:
       | This is a nice list of federated networks. Sadly, many of them
       | look like ghost towns. A lot of them have home pages with
       | marketing content but that don't show any easy way to get to
       | network content. Others have content and links to founders
       | profiles that haven't been updated in years. It's really hard to
       | get excited about many of these when even the people building it
       | don't seem to use it.
        
         | riffic wrote:
         | > even the people building it don't seem to use it
         | 
         | This is a (unintentional, perhaps) statement of FUD based on
         | your perception, and not based on reality.
         | 
         | I came across a pretty good quote the other day in relation to
         | the ActivityPub space which struck a chord: "A resource
         | arrangement that works in practice can work in theory" -
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elinor_Ostrom#Ostrom's_law
        
           | yosito wrote:
           | > not based on reality
           | 
           | Show me a federated network that people are actually using in
           | reality.
        
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             | rapnie wrote:
             | Matrix, mastodon, pleroma, peertube, pixelfed, scuttlebutt,
             | ...
             | 
             | (these all have their builders as active users AFAIK)
        
               | riffic wrote:
               | I was going to be rude and say that the burden of proof
               | wasn't upon me, but well, you beat me to the punch.
               | 
               | Let me add another one or two. How about SMTP and BGP?
        
               | ryukafalz wrote:
               | Not only their builders; I'm an active user of Matrix and
               | Mastodon and both are far far more popular than just
               | those interested in the tech.
        
         | cyberlab wrote:
         | > Sadly, many of them look like ghost towns
         | 
         | That is why I think we are still in early days of the
         | (fediverse-powered) web. All this fringe tech will blossom
         | eventually and we can live the 'decentralists dream' we all
         | seem to be pushing for. Give it time. Yes, effort is still
         | needed, and we all need to do our part to make it work, but
         | simply being patient too, waiting for all this tech to bloom
         | will be worth it.
        
           | dwighttk wrote:
           | ...year of Linux on the desktop
        
       | fsflover wrote:
       | Another link to explore the federation: https://the-
       | federation.info/.
        
         | mynameismonkey wrote:
         | Here's a map of services I built for those looking the connect
         | locally: http://u.osmfr.org/m/550053/
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | rapnie wrote:
       | Note also the wiki for the site, where more apps are tracked from
       | early development until they are ready to be added to the
       | directory.
       | 
       | https://git.feneas.org/feneas/fediverse/-/wikis/home
        
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