[HN Gopher] How to Teach Math?
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       How to Teach Math?
        
       Author : LittlePeter
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2021-05-06 08:56 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | atoav wrote:
       | One important thing is: create realistic problems that need
       | certain math. I had to calculate integrals for a _year_ before
       | our teacher for a brief moment glossed over what problem it might
       | be needed for.
       | 
       | In fact I only understood why integrals were useful, when I
       | started learning for the final exam.
       | 
       | This stuff can be really cool, but if even your teacher does as
       | if it is the most boring and useless thing in the world, if even
       | your teacher is unable to explain beforehand why you want to know
       | this, how would you?
        
         | jrib wrote:
         | One of my best memories from high school math was our teacher
         | taking us outside to measure the height of our building after
         | teaching us trigonometry.
         | 
         | We took a triangular ruler outside, leveled the base and lined
         | it up by eye with the top of the building. Then we measured the
         | distance to the point where we were standing and the distance
         | from the ground to the ruler.
         | 
         | I really wish education reduced the amount of rote learning
         | involved and focused more on letting students explore and make
         | mistakes with the educator as a guide.
        
       | dfdz wrote:
       | I am really confused by this article. The section "First An
       | Issue" is a great example of how NOT to teach math.
       | 
       | First, the class of sequences under consideration is not clearly
       | defined. (I am not going to invest time solving a problem, if I
       | am not sure about the definitions involved, constant
       | coefficient/variable coefficient etc).
       | 
       | Second, a question is asked "Is a product of two such sequences
       | also of the same form?" and the meaning of product is also not
       | clearly defined.
       | 
       | Third, the author links to an article whose PDF on the publishers
       | website is unreadable, and does not seem to answer the question
       | from what I can tell. The only purpose linking to this article
       | serves is intimidation.
       | 
       | There is a happy ending to my rant. I googled the topic alluded
       | to by the author and found a clear post explaining the solution.
       | In this stackexchange post the question and solution are both
       | clearly stated.
       | 
       | https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1348838/sum-and-pro...
        
         | this-pony wrote:
         | I think the point the author tries to make in the section
         | "First An Issue", as you say, is exactly to give an example of
         | bad teaching.
        
       | quacked wrote:
       | I don't know how to teach math, but I know how not to teach math.
       | 
       | 1. Don't teach that math is a "ladder". Trigonometry is not
       | "harder" than geometry, although many concepts in trigonometry
       | are expressed as geometry. Calculus is not "harder" than algebra,
       | although many concepts in calculus are indeed expressed as
       | algebra. Teaching that math is a ladder allows people to believe
       | that once they've covered the "basics" of a field of math (as if
       | you could ever learn all of "algebra"), they shouldn't have to
       | think about the basics again. Try telling a pianist that once
       | they've learned a set of scales they don't need to study them any
       | more, or try telling Richard Feynman that once he understood the
       | standard atomic model there was no need to continue examining it
       | in greater depth.
       | 
       | 2. Don't teach that math was "discovered" in its current form.
       | What most students think of when they think "math" is in fact
       | western notation for patterns observed in reality, handed down by
       | a bored teacher as universal law. A sheet full of squiggles isn't
       | "math", it's just a set of the most-predictable and best-notated
       | patterns made up by past mathematicians. "Math" is the process of
       | discovering and refining those squiggles. The relationship
       | between the length of the two perpendicular sides of a right
       | triangle and the hypotenuse exists outside of human knowledge,
       | but the Pythagorean Theorem is a only a certain method for
       | expressing that relationship. The numbers 1 through 9 are one
       | possible code for counting, but the quantities I through
       | IIIIIIIIII and onward exist outside of the notation of Arabic
       | numerals.
       | 
       | 3. Don't immediately move on from concepts once a student has
       | mastered them. Imagine if every time you figured out how to do
       | your job correctly, your boss moved you to a completely new task
       | requiring a completely new set of skills, giving you no time to
       | enjoy applying your prior mastery. If you've just learned how to
       | factor quadratic equations, why move on? Why not explore programs
       | that factor equations? Why not dig up old exams and show how
       | factoring would have solved earlier problems faster? This is
       | always met with cries of "but they're supposed to use what
       | they've learned to go on to even harder problems!" Sure, I agree,
       | but how can you possibly enjoy any task if the only thing you can
       | really expect is that even if you master your task, you'll be
       | struggling again within the week? Would you join a rec basketball
       | team if every time you started hitting three-pointers
       | consistently, they moved the rim higher and farther away without
       | giving you any time to feel what it's like to be good at
       | basketball?
       | 
       | 4. Don't teach that you need to know math because your grades
       | have to be high. For nearly every profession available, grades
       | are immediately forgotten as soon as you start receiving wages.
       | Teach that you need to know math because the world is constructed
       | and controlled by mathematicians and those acting on the advice
       | of mathematicians. If you don't know math you'll be taken
       | advantage of by those who do, whether it's in advertising,
       | gambling, banking, medicine, insurance, politics, entertainment,
       | engineering, programming, or any of the many other fields driven
       | entirely by math.
       | 
       | Of course, not teaching those four lessons becomes difficult,
       | because those lessons work in opposition to the central tenets of
       | mandatory state education, which necessarily operates as a giant
       | brainwashing factory working to justify its own existence. Modern
       | ediucators spend most of their time trying as hard as they can to
       | teach people that knowledge is best bestowed by authority and
       | then proven through certificates, that various fields of inquiry
       | exist separately from one another (for instance, that physics and
       | biology can or should be studied independently of history,
       | mathematics, grammar, semantics, or art), and that failure to
       | live up to expectations must necessarily lead to shame and
       | corrective action.
       | 
       | Don't send your kids to school if you can avoid it.
        
       | tediousdemise wrote:
       | The human brain is like a self-compiling compiler. You can teach
       | people math by teaching them how to read, and then suggesting a
       | good math book.
        
         | rahimnathwani wrote:
         | I'm trying that with my son (who is not yet 5). He has no
         | trouble reading anything in his math book[0], but 'suggesting'
         | that he work through the book isn't enough. He'd rather play
         | with lego, read a story book, or do pretty much anything else.
         | 
         | My solution: short sessions of a few pages at a time, with me
         | sitting by his side, ready to intervene when he gets
         | sidetracked.
         | 
         | [0]
         | https://shop.singaporemath.com/index.php/product/dimensions-...
        
         | dboreham wrote:
         | I'm a strong proponent of learning things yourself, and have
         | done so life long, but I suspect there may be something
         | different about Mathematics, at least up to undergraduate
         | level. At least based on my experience helping my kids. Even
         | today's rich kahnsphere doesn't seem to adequately stand in for
         | a good teacher.
        
         | royaltjames wrote:
         | Can you suggest me a good math book to read?
        
           | hansvm wrote:
           | Tons, but it really depends on where you're starting. Is
           | there anything in particular you'd like to learn?
           | 
           | Every time I've recommended Calculus Made Easy [0] it's been
           | a huge success. The writing is lively and full of motivating
           | examples, and it's an enjoyable read.
           | 
           | [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17185577
        
       | teeray wrote:
       | I started high school in a program that was more focused on
       | "applied math learning." (IMP [0]) We'd throw dice and figure out
       | probabilities and stuff. I transferred out of it within two
       | months because it was so focused on finding applications that it
       | completely missed the mechanics of manipulating expressions.
       | 
       | It was boring at times, but after three years I had a rock-solid
       | base on how to turn one expression into any other. The
       | applications of those skills came later once I got into Physics
       | and Stats.
       | 
       | I don't know if it worked out better that way, but I think
       | there's kind of a chicken-and-egg situation. To really understand
       | the applications, you need the math background. To appreciate the
       | math background, you need the applications.
       | 
       | [0]
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Mathematics_Progra...
        
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