[HN Gopher] Tani Adewumi is now a chess master
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       Tani Adewumi is now a chess master
        
       Author : Dangeranger
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2021-05-08 19:50 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nytimes.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nytimes.com)
        
       | 29athrowaway wrote:
       | This may be a better link for this event.
       | 
       | https://new.uschess.org/news/tani-adewumi-national-master-ag...
        
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       | havermeyer wrote:
       | Archive link:
       | http://archive.today/2021.05.08-195117/https://www.nytimes.c...
        
       | szundi wrote:
       | Now we all know who had money to spend on this newspaper.
        
       | dane-pgp wrote:
       | An inspiring story, but the writer makes a thought-provoking
       | point:
       | 
       | "Winning state chess tournaments is not a scalable solution to
       | child homelessness."
       | 
       | It's a pity that needs to be highlighted, but it's a reminder of
       | how complicated the problem of homelessness is.
        
         | AkshatM wrote:
         | What makes homelessness complicated as a problem? It seems like
         | there are many straightforward solutions to it from a
         | government policy perspective - pairing rent control with
         | welfare, building more housing tenements, and in general
         | building out a social safety net. In what way are these
         | solutions insufficient?
        
           | compiler-guy wrote:
           | Many people on the street have mental health issues. Yes,
           | just having more housing would go a long way, but many choose
           | to live on the street rather than deal with rules about drugs
           | or caring for the housing.
           | 
           | Also rent control keeps the lucky few in their home, but
           | doesn't get people off the street.
        
           | lisper wrote:
           | Homelessness is not a single problem but a manifestation of
           | at least half a dozen different underlying problems,
           | including mental illness, substance abuse, housing policy,
           | and personal choices. It's very, very complicated.
           | 
           | Source: I spent four years hanging out with homeless people
           | and made a documentary film about the experience:
           | 
           | http://graceofgodmovie.com/
        
         | sky_rw wrote:
         | Doesn't seem that thought provoking. Winning chess tournaments
         | isn't a scalable solution to any problem.
        
           | dane-pgp wrote:
           | I think what struck me was the juxtaposition of how well it
           | worked as a solution for Tani's situation, compared to how
           | poorly it would work in general.
           | 
           | No one would be surprised to hear that this solution doesn't
           | scale, but the thoughts that it provokes in me are questions
           | like "How does society produce outcomes that are nearly as
           | good, but which can help more than just one person?"
           | 
           | Often there is an 80:20 approach, or the hard part is going
           | from helping zero people to helping one person, but there
           | doesn't seem like there's any way to adapt the success here
           | to other instances of the same problem.
           | 
           | In fact, the magnitude of the success here could even be a
           | distraction from more scalable solutions, either because
           | people think that all such stories must have a happy ending,
           | or that the only people who deserve such a positive outcome
           | are those who are lucky enough to have rare talents.
        
       | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
       | Local boy makes good (I am from both Nigeria and Long Island).
        
       | comodore_ wrote:
       | Besides his age, the main reason for this story is probably the
       | fact that he is a homeless teenager and that it is very rare that
       | kids with such a background excel. He cannot be the only one who
       | is obviously highly gifted, it is a tragedy that these children
       | are deprived by the system to be sufficiently empowered and thus
       | sustainably break the cycle of poverty.
       | 
       | This, and the fact that california is planning to eliminate or
       | drastically reduce the gifted education program in calculus in
       | the name of equity!, which essentially will deprive especially
       | gifted poor kids of even the slightest chance to get noticed,
       | makes me sad and incredibly angry at the same time.
        
         | eBombzor wrote:
         | Source?
        
       | t-writescode wrote:
       | Hey, I just heard about him on GothamChess. Good for him!
        
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       | bko wrote:
       | > Told that Tani needed a top chess coach to develop, the family
       | scrimped and hired a grandmaster, Giorgi Kacheishvili, to coach
       | Tani three times a week.
       | 
       | Honest question, could you be an effective chess coach if you're
       | not a better chess player than the student?
       | 
       | [Edit] Tani has a rating of 2223 and Giorgi's rating is 2582, so
       | it appears Giorgi is better
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgi_Kacheishvili
        
         | Kranar wrote:
         | Being a good coach isn't really about "uploading" existing
         | knowledge, but a lot more like being a good manager. The role
         | has more to do with things like maintaining good discipline and
         | habits, keeping you motivated and focused on your objective,
         | organizing your schedule, identifying key areas for
         | improvement, being on the lookout for opportunities, so on so
         | forth...
        
         | prezjordan wrote:
         | Not a very good chess player but I'd imagine it's a similar
         | phenomenon to any sports coach. Tani clearly has an incredible
         | ability that his coach can help unlock. EDIT: This is a really
         | good question and I like these answers - unsure why OP is being
         | downvoted!
        
         | qsort wrote:
         | At a low level, obviously no, you can't. At a professional
         | level, you are more of a sparring partner than a teacher. Maybe
         | you're an expert of a certain opening or endgame, or you're
         | trying to identify specific weaknesses in someone else's game.
        
         | mtbomb wrote:
         | 1. Tani is rapidly moving up the ranks. He's only 10.
         | Presumably the rating difference was much larger just a few
         | months ago.
         | 
         | 2. 300 points is still quite a large rating difference.
         | 
         | 3. In many disciplines the best practitioners are often not the
         | best coaches. You might speculate that being the very best and
         | most talented would make a worse coach since the struggle to
         | increasing levels was easier.
         | 
         | 4. Even Tiger Woods had a coach at his peak.
        
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