[HN Gopher] Facebook will ignore data collection ban issued in G...
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Facebook will ignore data collection ban issued in Germany over
WhatApp rules
Author : thg
Score : 69 points
Date : 2021-05-11 20:27 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.techspot.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.techspot.com)
| Nextgrid wrote:
| Facebook already ignores the GDPR with total impunity
| (https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/) so not surprised at all.
| underseacables wrote:
| Is there any recourse that would force Facebook to comply?
| Nextgrid wrote:
| I am not sure.
|
| If this was some random small company you could imagine that
| the regulators have bigger fish to fry, but in this case this
| is the #1 offender worldwide when it comes to privacy - if
| there are "fish to fry", this is the biggest fish, and the
| regulator's lack of serious action (such as the million-
| dollar fines everyone is fear-mongering about) suggests
| they're either incompetent or complicit.
|
| Maybe suing your local privacy regulator in local court is
| the next step? Open Rights Group is taking that approach in
| the UK: https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-
| releases/privacy-organ...
| merb wrote:
| block them via dns. most users that are on facebook probably
| do not know how to go around that block.
| Stranger43 wrote:
| The EU courts could go after any assets/companies associated
| with Facebook operating in the EU and basically dissolve them
| as bankrupt if they fail to pay their increasing fines.
|
| Another venue is to go directly after Facebooks European
| customers and make it illegal for any company to pay Facebook
| for ads targeting European customers.
|
| In the end this would force Facebook to abandon Europe and
| lead to local competitors taking over that market weakening
| Facebooks network effects in non-US markets.
|
| this is an escalation and delaying game and so far facebook
| is banking on some political saving grace that probably wont
| come as well privacy is considered an human rights by
| European courts and not something an simple short term
| political majority can simply erase because it's convenient
| for some US megacorp.
| hesk wrote:
| Fine them 4% of their annual revenue.
| hexo wrote:
| 80% of revenue would teach them better
| pseudalopex wrote:
| GDPR allows 4%.
| throwaway3699 wrote:
| Sucking up 4% of revenue is catastrophic enough (that is
| probably double digits of profit). The goal of fines
| isn't to make be an extinction level event for a company.
| arcticbull wrote:
| > The goal of fines isn't to make be an extinction level
| event for a company.
|
| Why not, out of curiosity? We don't make this distinction
| for low-income folks who get parking tickets. If you
| don't make them truly punitive why comply? It just gets
| factored into the cost of doing business.
| BugWatch wrote:
| In this case, plenty of us won't be shedding any tears.
| dheera wrote:
| GDPR only applies to the EU anyway. They can't enforce GDPR in
| the US. Facebook can always just close their offices in Germany
| but still serve their website worldwide, and unless Germany
| wants to implement a firewall to the likes of China, it will be
| accessible to German residents.
|
| The US needs to implement an equivalent privacy law.
| zwaps wrote:
| Not quite true. If facebook were to remain usable by EU
| citizens, it falls under EI jurisdiction. This, too, is part
| of GDPR and the reason why some US websites simply block EU
| IP addresses.
|
| Of course, they could defy that order as well and hope that
| their assets are safe elsewhere in the world. Or, you know.
| their executives have seen enough of Rome and Paris.
| miohtama wrote:
| The EU can stop local advertisement revenue flow to Facebook.
| ars wrote:
| > just close their offices in Germany
|
| They'd have to close everything in the EU. I can't imagine
| the rest of the EU would be fine with it.
|
| And that's probably more than Facebook is willing to do - it
| would mean no advertising in the EU.
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