[HN Gopher] Apple Support: How to hear image descriptions in the...
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       Apple Support: How to hear image descriptions in the Camera app
        
       Author : colinprince
       Score  : 61 points
       Date   : 2021-05-14 11:55 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | rconti wrote:
       | The cautions not to use it in navigation or circumstances where
       | you might be harmed ("yellow car driving directly at you at a
       | high rate of speed!") or diagnoses of medical conditions ("might
       | want to get that wart looked at, dude") made me laugh.
        
       | tonylemesmer wrote:
       | Makes the phone virtually unusable if you're not familiar with
       | voiceover gestures
        
         | BoorishBears wrote:
         | On my phone I get a pretty stern warning about that before
         | enabling it
        
         | Operyl wrote:
         | You can ask Siri to turn off Voiceover thankfully, can turn it
         | on and off inside of the Camera app this way.
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | mimischi wrote:
       | The YouTube channel by Kristy Viers has been helpful in
       | understanding how they use an iPhone and other devices. Here's a
       | video on VoiceOver in the Camera app:
       | https://youtu.be/8CAafjodkyE
        
       | krackers wrote:
       | Sound recognition is also another very cool accessibility
       | feature: https://www.loopinsight.com/2021/05/11/apple-support-
       | how-to-...
       | 
       | Though I'm not sure if it comes at the cost of increased battery
       | usage.
        
       | qwertox wrote:
       | Also pretty cool for learning languages?
       | 
       | If it would also show the written text of what it said, faded in
       | as soon as the word is spoken, overlaid on the object it
       | describes, that would help a lot.
        
       | jayd16 wrote:
       | Word of warning, if you lock your phone and you're not familiar
       | with the voice over input it can be really annoying to unlock
       | your phone...Seems to turn off face id as well?
       | 
       | You can ask Siri to turn off voice over and all is well.
        
       | Waterluvian wrote:
       | I tried to get Voice Over working but scroll broke once enabled.
       | It says three fingers to scroll but that just won't work for me.
        
         | domoritz wrote:
         | Put three fingers next to each other on the screen and move
         | them up to scroll down.
        
           | Waterluvian wrote:
           | Tried this over and over again. No luck. Weird!
        
         | LeoPanthera wrote:
         | You have to tap the part of the screen you want to scroll,
         | first.
        
       | ushkarev wrote:
       | Microsoft Seeing AI has similar features; might be of interest to
       | visually impaired people as it's made more specifically for
       | identifying objects or reading documents
        
       | LeoPanthera wrote:
       | If you get stuck in VoiceOver, you can ask Siri to "turn off
       | VoiceOver". The touch gestures are completely different to normal
       | iPhone usage, with it turned on.
       | 
       | Quick guide: Single-tap to highlight a widget, double-tap to
       | click, swipe with three fingers to scroll (after first
       | highlighting the part of the screen you want to scroll). To go
       | home, swipe up from the bottom and hold until it vibrates.
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | LeoPanthera wrote:
       | The descriptions are shockingly detailed. I wish there was a way
       | you could add these descriptions to the metadata of all the
       | photos in your library, it would be an amazing way to add rich
       | searchable data.
       | 
       | In particular, asking Siri to "show me photos of <x>" where x is
       | a thing that the photo descriptions does recognize, doesn't
       | always work.
        
         | Waterluvian wrote:
         | I do this all the time in google photos. It's so #%^^ing
         | incredible.
         | 
         | "Waterloo patios with friendname" - me looking for when I last
         | saw that person remembering it was on a patio.
         | 
         | "Driveway or sidewalk"
         | 
         | "cottage docks"
         | 
         | "receipts"
         | 
         | "Memes with Ted Cruz fleeing to Mexico"
        
           | smoldesu wrote:
           | Same here. Blew me away when I realized you could do it a
           | couple years ago!
        
         | ericholscher wrote:
         | Just so you know, you can search the photos libraries with all
         | sorts of ML-generated metadata (eg mountains).
        
           | LeoPanthera wrote:
           | Yes but the things that the image descriptions recognizes is
           | a far longer and more detailed list than the searchable
           | objects.
        
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