[HN Gopher] Over the past 10 years, the LHC has found more than ...
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       Over the past 10 years, the LHC has found more than 50 new hadrons
        
       Author : graderjs
       Score  : 86 points
       Date   : 2021-05-19 11:53 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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       | rpz wrote:
       | Horray. How about figuring out a way to lower the hadrons
       | discovered per dollar ratio and maybe i'll be more excited
        
         | capableweb wrote:
         | > ... per dollar ratio ...
         | 
         | LHC - Large Hadron Collider - Geneva, Switzerland - Most likely
         | CHF/EUR. Not sure why you would care how much is being spent on
         | it.
        
           | tester756 wrote:
           | >Not sure why you would care how much is being spent on it.
           | 
           | It's easiest way to see how "big" something is
        
             | karmakaze wrote:
             | km, kg (or if you prefer MeV/c^2) work just fine.
        
         | ajkjk wrote:
         | better to spend that money on, what, plastic widgets and more
         | manipulative ads?
        
       | bedhead wrote:
       | My dyslexia had me thinking this was a sexual thing...
        
       | Kye wrote:
       | Hadron and On and On
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV-hSgL1R74
        
         | herodoturtle wrote:
         | Fifteen hundred and seven.
         | 
         | <3
        
       | lacker wrote:
       | I wonder if this is like ancient astronomers finding more and
       | more epicycles.
        
         | at_a_remove wrote:
         | Not especially, no.
         | 
         | This is more akin to finding new molecules (hadrons), given
         | known kinds of atoms (quarks).
        
         | eddieh wrote:
         | Nah, they're more like elements, but they're made of quarks not
         | nucleons (protons/neutrons).
         | 
         | I think the modern equivalent of epicycles is string theory.
         | Find an inconstancy? No problem, add a dimension.
        
       | sthnblllII wrote:
       | This is reminiscent of Seaborg's work in the 1960's that lead to
       | the discovery of lots of new heavy elements. Everyone was pretty
       | sure they could be created but someone had to build an
       | accelerator to do it.
        
         | lapetitejort wrote:
         | There's a hypothesis that we'll eventually find more stable
         | superheavy elements as the number of neutrons increases in the
         | nucleus [0]. Perhaps we'll find something like that in hadrons
         | (not counting protons and neutrons of course)?
         | 
         | [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability
        
           | BitwiseFool wrote:
           | Here's an ignorant question, but my understanding is that
           | every element has an emission/absorption spectra. That being
           | the case, why not point a telescope at some supernova remnant
           | and look for any lines that do not match the known elements.
           | If stable super-heavy elements exist, then they would
           | probably be made in supernovae and the remnant would show
           | signs of those elements, no?
        
             | wrs wrote:
             | Not answering your question, but fun fact: helium was
             | discovered by seeing an unexplained emission line in our
             | own sun's spectrum, which is where it got its name.
        
             | simcop2387 wrote:
             | I think the main issue it's that they would need to be made
             | in sufficient quantity to show up in the Spectra of the
             | novas and collision. The heavier they are the fewer will be
             | made, making detection harder and harder. You'd also need
             | to calculate all the lines for a given element at the
             | various energy levels to determine if a set of lines match,
             | and that gets nontrivial pretty quickly
        
               | btilly wrote:
               | I think that that issue is secondary to the fact that the
               | island of stability has predicted half-lives in the range
               | of a year or two. So in order to look for that spectrum
               | we have to have supernovae that have happened very
               | recently and close enough for us to make out the spectrum
               | in what remains.
        
               | BitwiseFool wrote:
               | Ah, that makes sense. Thank you.
        
           | therein wrote:
           | Looking forward to the stable isotope of element 115 that
           | serendipitously falls into that island of stability.
        
             | SECProto wrote:
             | Why element 115 in particular?
        
       | dannypovolotski wrote:
       | Am I the only one who misread the word "Hadrons"?
        
       | ASalazarMX wrote:
       | Seeing such number (and knowing nil about particle physics), I
       | imagine someone cataloging the fallen leaves in autumn using low-
       | res pictures. They are the same kind of leaf, but from different
       | angles it looks like there's several kinds.
        
         | ephimetheus wrote:
         | Hadrons are composite particles so that's exactly what this is.
         | Different quark combinations. Back in the day people didn't
         | know and we're quite unhappy with such a Zoo of particles.
        
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