[HN Gopher] Eric Carle has died
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       Eric Carle has died
        
       Author : divbzero
       Score  : 271 points
       Date   : 2021-05-27 03:25 UTC (19 hours ago)
        
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       | aynyc wrote:
       | My kids love his books.
       | 
       | FYI: the broadway production of his books is very well done as
       | well.
        
       | afro88 wrote:
       | I loved The Very Hungry Caterpillar as a kid, and now read it to
       | my 6 month old before bed. He loves it too, smiling while playing
       | with the little mini pages and me poking his finger into the
       | holes as the caterpillar chomps through his feast. Precious
       | moments.
       | 
       | RIP Eric Carle
        
       | _Microft wrote:
       | In German, it is called _Die kleine Raupe Nimmersatt_ which,
       | translated word-by-word, means _The small Caterpillar Never-
       | sated_. I always found that an especially cute name.
       | 
       | How is The Very Hungry Caterpillar called in your language? Did
       | the translator have similar freedoms with the name?
        
         | lemming wrote:
         | In Spanish it's _La oruga muy hambrienta_ which is a straight
         | translation of the English.
        
         | Svip wrote:
         | The Danish title is very similar to the German and Dutch ones,
         | _Den sultne larve Aldrigmaet_ meaning _The hungry larva Never-
         | sated_.
        
           | _Microft wrote:
           | I just looked up Norwegian and it's _Den lille larven
           | Aldrimett_ there.
        
         | roywashere wrote:
         | Dutch: Rupsje Nooitgenoeg (Little Caterpillar Neverenough)
        
         | coccinelle wrote:
         | French seems to be La Chenille qui fait des trous: The
         | Caterpillar That Makes Holes. Very underwhelming compared to
         | the German or Dutch translations if you ask me!
        
       | ugh123 wrote:
       | The 3-book box set, along with Lonely Firefly and Busy Spider, is
       | still going strong with my 3 year old.
       | 
       | Although I try to limit the Caterpillar book now since my son
       | will start demanding cake, ice cream, sausage, etc after we read
       | it. Makes bedtime routine really hard
        
       | pizzabearman wrote:
       | My mom read this book to me as a child all the time. 15/20 years
       | later I ran across it some how. I remembered my brain doing some
       | kind of "summer salt jump flip", awakening some hidden part of my
       | brain recognizing those plums, apples, caterpillar, etc. The
       | illustrations are so colorful and distinct.
        
       | nineplay wrote:
       | There are very few justifications for the existence of Twitter
       | but one is undoubtedly Eric Carle's feed. He posted new drawings
       | for every holiday.
       | 
       | https://twitter.com/ericcarle?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam...
        
         | jedberg wrote:
         | That Twitter is awesome, thanks!
         | 
         | I was a little disappointed in twitter marking his "happy
         | Hanukkah" drawing as "sensitive content"
        
           | SirYandi wrote:
           | Was censored for me as well. Very strange. I'd guess it has
           | been reported a few times.
        
             | freepalestine wrote:
             | Yeah well you know Jews are literally Nazis now because
             | they want one country where Muslims also allowed to live
             | and Muslims already eradicated Jews from the rest of the
             | Middle East and Arabia and will kill them if they try to
             | emigrate, but they're the victims
             | 
             | Free Palestine! /s
             | 
             | The best part of this post is camping the nickname.
             | 
             | Death to jihadis!
        
             | freepalestine wrote:
             | Judaism is tantamount to Nazism in the eyes of Twitter
        
           | afro88 wrote:
           | Strange, it's not marked sensitive in mine. Are twitter
           | personalising the labelling of tweets now?
        
             | keithnz wrote:
             | I'm in NZ, and not marked sensitive for me
        
             | jedberg wrote:
             | That would make sense but be extra funny to label a happy
             | Hanukkah post as sensitive for me in particular! That would
             | be a pretty broken algorithm.
             | 
             | Unless it's per region perhaps. Are you in the USA?
        
           | sachinag wrote:
           | I'm in USA and not censored for me, although I'm logged in
           | and have view sensitive content turned on
        
         | annoyingnoob wrote:
         | Thank you for that link, had no idea.
        
       | hprotagonist wrote:
       | His books are still in steady rotation at my house.
        
       | scop wrote:
       | Thank you Eric Carle.
       | 
       | I've greatly enjoyed reading his books to my children, especially
       | "The Grouchy the Ladybug" and "Papa Please Get the Moon for Me".
       | 
       | In a similar vein, and for any curious readers out there, I was
       | recently reduced to near tears reading "The Clown of God" by
       | Tommie De Palo
        
         | lanstin wrote:
         | I cry every time at that one.
        
       | bvm wrote:
       | i enjoy reading to my 7 month old. she has no idea what's going
       | on, but she likes being cuddled, the sound of her parent's voices
       | and turning the pages. what i really enjoy is that she has no
       | idea of linear narrative, so she will turn the book to the last
       | page and then the first. then try to eat the book. then at some
       | point cry.
       | 
       | the very hungry caterpillar is somewhat unique in that she
       | absolutely loves the illustrations, like no other book. she
       | really sits still and gazes agog at them, especially that picture
       | of the sun at the beginning.
        
       | heydenberk wrote:
       | Books for babies and toddlers are pretty much all the same: cute
       | drawings and simple sentences. On some level, they're all goofy
       | and inane. There's no accounting for taste to be sure, but I am
       | especially baffled why some of these books grow tiresome after
       | two read-throughs, while you are delighted to see your toddler
       | reach for certain books again and again. Eric Carle's books are
       | all in the latter camp for me. The illustrations are beautiful,
       | of course, but something about the stupidly simple prose and
       | narrative just ineffably works. I'm grateful to him.
        
         | danbolt wrote:
         | I've heard that a lot of children's media often looks to help
         | encourage pattern recognition (eg: counting the Very Hungry
         | Caterpillar's foods or the structure of a Blue's Clues
         | episode), but I don't know how true that is.
        
           | NoNotTheDuo wrote:
           | I've heard a corollary to this. Kids often love to watch/read
           | the same thing because they recognize the pattern and know
           | what is coming up next. This gives them comfort and a
           | routine.
        
         | ftio wrote:
         | I echo all of this, including in appreciation of Carle's work.
         | Despite the simple language, there's a sophistication and depth
         | to the best children's books that mediocre ones lack.
         | 
         | My favorite to read to my little guys is _This is Not My Hat_
         | by Jon Klassen, which is one of the funniest, most subtle ones
         | we've come across.
        
           | person22 wrote:
           | Adding to the recommended books: 'Bats at the Beach' by Brian
           | Lies.
           | 
           | My kids never got tired of me reading it and I never got
           | tired of reading it. They loved that book. The illustrations
           | are extremely well done. Who would draw bats wearing
           | floaties?
        
           | peterstensmyr wrote:
           | Highly recommend "the wolf, the duck, and the mouse" which is
           | written by Mac Barnett and illustrated by Jon Klassen. Absurd
           | and funny.
        
           | citizenkeen wrote:
           | Sam and Dave Dig a Hole is hilarious for the kid and
           | absolutely terrifying for the parent.
        
           | jbrooksuk wrote:
           | It's so good to see Jon Klassen getting recognition on HN!
           | 
           | His books are superb! Short, sweet and extremely funny :D
        
           | agentwiggles wrote:
           | Jon Klassen is great! Simple yet beautiful art and stories
           | that are fun for both the parents and the kids. I love the
           | final line of This Is Not My Hat, which works on two levels:
           | "Nobody will ever find me."
        
         | WalterBright wrote:
         | I enjoy Winnie the Pooh as much today as when I was 6. But for
         | different reasons. Today I enjoy the sly humor in it.
         | 
         | It takes real talent to appeal to both young and old. The early
         | Spongebob cartoons were like that, Bugs Bunny, and the early
         | seasons of The Simpsons
        
         | bambax wrote:
         | My kids had a book about a wolf who made soup with a stone,
         | "Une soupe aux caillou".
         | 
         | The wolf travels to other animals' homes; the animals are
         | afraid at first, but they let him in because he says he only
         | wants to make soup.
         | 
         | He comes in, boils water in a big pot, puts his stone in. The
         | animals want to help with the soup, and so they suggest other
         | ingredients. The wolf says "well, sure, you can add that if you
         | want".
         | 
         | They drink the soup together. Then the wolf gets up, takes his
         | stone back from the pot, and leaves.
         | 
         | The process repeats for 8 or 10 different animals, and that's
         | it.
         | 
         | It's a fantastic book. We must have read it hundreds of times.
        
           | wikibob wrote:
           | Which is in turn an adaptation of the parable of the stone
           | soup
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Soup
        
             | bambax wrote:
             | Wow, thank you... did not know that...
        
         | quadrangle wrote:
         | I don't like this idea of grouping them all as similar. There's
         | a huge range of toddler-focused books, some are great, some are
         | awful, most are in-between.
         | 
         | Brown Bear, Brown Bear from Carle himself is mediocre junk.
         | It's just colors and animals, and has no character, no
         | narrative, no arc.
         | 
         | The Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar is an amazing, astounding
         | masterpiece. It is usually printed with a sort of dynamic
         | tactical approach with different page sizes, holes in the
         | pages, the story has a real arc, it teaches biology, it
         | carefully works in numbers and days of the week and the idea of
         | time frame... it's a true stand-out.
         | 
         | Most of Carle's stuff is somewhere in the middle, though he has
         | a few other superb ones.
         | 
         | Just like art for older audiences, there really is a range. You
         | could say that all movies are the same: people having conflicts
         | and doing stuff. On some level, they're all dramatic and
         | simplistic.
         | 
         | It's not mere taste. What makes a great book or movie for any
         | age is not total relativism.
        
           | jacobolus wrote:
           | _Brown Bear, Brown Bear_ is an excellent book for very young
           | children (say, under 2 years old). It's not a deep book, but
           | it is not trying to be.
           | 
           | It has attractive clear illustrations of one animal per page,
           | a simple repeating structure with only a few new words each
           | page, nice rhyme/meter. Its structure involves repeatedly
           | anticipating the next animal, which makes it easy to
           | memorize.
           | 
           | It is a book my kids enjoyed "reading" aloud to themselves at
           | age ~2 before they could fully remember the content of more
           | complicated picture books.
           | 
           | * * *
           | 
           | Of course, this isn't the _only_ type of book small kids
           | should be listening to, and in the genre of extremely simple
           | picture books there is a lot of abject garbage.
        
         | chasd00 wrote:
         | for me, it was much easier to read books like Little Blue Truck
         | or Goodnight Moon night after night to my kids because they
         | rhyme. I could memorize the poetry and read it as my boys went
         | to sleep while half-asleep myself.
        
           | IggleSniggle wrote:
           | This one line about hubris enters my thoughts unprovoked, an
           | internal reproach, on occasion:
           | 
           | --------
           | 
           | He _saw_ a puddle and he _tried_ to swerve--
           | 
           | Into the mud rolled the big fat truck,
           | 
           | and his big important wheels got STUCK
        
             | fortylove wrote:
             | Even then, his heavy duty dump truck tires were stuck down
             | deep in muck and mire.
        
               | WJW wrote:
               | I'm not a native English speaker but even I can just
               | _hear_ the metrum in that sentence. Very cool.
        
         | croutonwagon wrote:
         | My wife has a masters in reading and language arts in early
         | childhood education. Which means shes also a LOT better at
         | reading to the kids than me.
         | 
         | What i never realized was that a LOT of these books, Eric
         | Carles are in that camp, are using words chosen to teach kids
         | basic language skills and sentence formation. The ones that
         | dont really employ a lot of those learning mechanisms, seem to
         | be the ones that we grow tired of quickly and hit the back of
         | the stack.. Im sure Nostalgia is part of it too.
         | 
         | Dr. Suess is similar and very heavy on sounds/aliteration. But
         | you would be surprised to know that many of his books actually
         | use very few words. Like Green Eggs and Ham is like 50 pages of
         | sentence after sentence but only uses like 50 words total or
         | something like that (i could be wrong, its one of the most
         | famous ones that like that).
         | 
         | Honestly when I read to my young kids, i would get tired of the
         | same books over and over and would just kinda make up the
         | story. Now that my kids are learning to actually read, I dont
         | do that anymore.
        
           | ftio wrote:
           | YES -- you're nailing something that I've felt but haven't
           | been able to articulate.
           | 
           | The worst children's books are ones that don't roll off the
           | tongue, that use too-complicated phraseology, that through
           | circumlocution challenge the rea--well, you get it. They trip
           | me up!
        
           | triska wrote:
           | This is similar to ABBA songs: Superficially, they seem very
           | simple, but they are quite complex internally, and when
           | something is repeated, then it is often repeated in a
           | slightly different way.
        
           | ska wrote:
           | > What i never realized was that a LOT of these books,
           | 
           | This is part of a broader phenomenon, where most things are
           | more complicated than you first think when you dig into it.
           | This leads some people to assume work in areas they don't
           | understand is easy.
        
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             | csours wrote:
             | I constantly assume that parts of my own job are easier
             | than they turn out to be.
             | 
             | 'That should only take 30 minutes' - winds up taking 2
             | calendar weeks.
        
               | croutonwagon wrote:
               | I have to typically impress in my first line support guys
               | that "if you don't want people to think your job is
               | simple, then you shouldn't assume the same of them"
               | 
               | Heck I get people that think MY job is just clicking next
               | on installers, there are entire swaths of things we do
               | that others simply aren't aware of because it's
               | transparent to them. I even had one lady question how
               | much I made based on that very assumption. (She's not a
               | very nice person in general anyway)
        
         | garyrob wrote:
         | I agree. I read his books, especially that one, to each of my
         | kids, and still have very fond memories
        
         | meristohm wrote:
         | Some books I'm willing to read repeatedly: I Am A Bunny, and I
         | Am A Mouse, both by Ole Risom and illustrated by Richard Scarry
         | and John P. Miller, respectively, in a realistic style, as if
         | they actually made the time to observe the plants and animals;
         | Goodnight Moon by Margaret Wise Brown; Stack the Cats, by Susan
         | Ghahremani; and Bear and Wolf, by Daniel Salmieri. The latter
         | is my favorite so far because of this line, among others:
         | 
         | "Bear and Wolf walked through the quietly falling snow, using
         | their eyes, and ears, and noses to take in the snowy woods."
         | 
         | Bear is female, Wolf is male, and they are at home in the cold,
         | as we can be if we allow ourselves to acclimate. They explore
         | together, go they separate ways, and meet again in late spring.
        
           | navbaker wrote:
           | On the page in Goodnight Moon where the mouse is peeking out
           | from behind the bowl full of mush, our 3-year old has started
           | shouting at it "NO NO YOUNG MOUSE, GET AWAY FROM MY MUSH!!!"
           | Makes me laugh every time.
        
             | kenjackson wrote:
             | While Goodnight Moon is everyone's favorite, there is
             | something about "The Little Island" by Margaret Wise Brown
             | that captured me as a parent. I loved reading this story
             | out loud. The writing is poetic and flows off the tongue.
             | The story has some nuance, that to this day I'm still not
             | sure I fully grasp. This is my favorite book to give as a
             | gift to new parents.
        
             | bkandel wrote:
             | I love the book, but honestly who sleeps with a bowl of
             | oatmeal on their nightstand?! Never understood that.
        
               | thanatos519 wrote:
               | Who says "Goodnight nobody?"
        
               | fortylove wrote:
               | But what's the meaning behind "goodnight noises
               | everywhere"?
        
               | navbaker wrote:
               | I've wondered that for a while, especially combined with
               | the previous pages saying "goodnight stars, goodnight
               | air"
        
       | CyberRabbi wrote:
       | There should really be a black banner for this, dang?
        
       | anonu wrote:
       | I read The Very Hungry Caterpillar to my toddler. It really
       | resonates with her because of all the fun pictures of food!
       | 
       | What strikes me about a lot of children's book is that they often
       | talk about metamorphosis - which is a strange and beautiful
       | concept. But we rarely encounter it in real life, other than
       | figuratively.
        
       | freediver wrote:
       | Very grateful to Eric Carle and his contribution to the world.
       | 
       | Alan Kay said "People who are really serious about software
       | should make their own hardware.". Makes me think that people who
       | are really serious about writing books for children, should do
       | their own illustrations.
        
         | nescioquid wrote:
         | Though by analogy, people who are really serious about writing
         | books for children should _really_ make their own children, no?
        
         | jacobolus wrote:
         | While some excellent children's books are one-person projects,
         | most of my favorite children's books have separate author /
         | illustrator. There is no indication that they are less
         | "serious". You can find a large pile of terrible books with any
         | possible authorship structure.
         | 
         | I do get the sense however that picture books are usually
         | better when the author and illustrator collaborate closely.
        
           | freediver wrote:
           | Could be as well, but as an aspiring childrens' book author,
           | this just made me think there may be one more skill I will
           | need to acquire.
        
       | rohansingh wrote:
       | > Books for babies and toddlers are pretty much all the same:
       | cute drawings and simple sentences. On some level, they're all
       | goofy and inane.
       | 
       | If you're tired of that, I'd highly recommend Happy Dog the Happy
       | Dog:
       | 
       | https://topatoco.com/collections/ryan-north/products/qw-happ...
       | 
       | It's based on this comic:
       | 
       | https://qwantz.com/index.php?comic=484
        
         | apetresc wrote:
         | The one sample page it shows is: "When you grow up, your
         | parents may reject your sexuality".
         | 
         | I don't think this is actually a book for little kids.
        
           | QuesnayJr wrote:
           | The ad copy says "It is not actually for children?"
        
       | syntheticnature wrote:
       | The Eric Carle Museum of Picture Book Art in Amherst, MA is worth
       | a visit: https://www.carlemuseum.org/
        
       | rietta wrote:
       | He wrote or illustrated some of our daughter's favorites. It's
       | amazing to me just how classic these are. Something I had no idea
       | about until becoming a parent. RIP Sir, and thank you for being
       | part of our child's education.
        
       | jgon wrote:
       | The books have been a staple in our household as well, and I echo
       | other people is saying that this a loss of a true talent. One
       | thing I thought I'd add to the conversation is that a series of
       | very well done short films were made based on some of his books.
       | If your little ones are begging for some screen time and you're
       | wary of what youtube will unleash on them, I found these to be a
       | really fun series that keep to his unique and beautiful
       | aesthetic, and at least my kids loved to watch The Very Hungry
       | Caterpillar on the screen and then read it together afterwards,
       | and maybe your children will feel the same!
       | 
       | The Very Hungry Caterpillar
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75NQK-Sm1YY
       | 
       | I See a Song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPpkaldk84Y
       | 
       | Papa, Please Get The Moon for Me
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGqAw7UM6qo
       | 
       | The Very Quiet Cricket
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGqAw7UM6qo
       | 
       | The Mixed Up Chameleon
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrmZeXf7ScU
       | 
       | "In the light of the moon, a little egg lay on a leaf..."
        
       | strictnein wrote:
       | Like many others here, I spent several years of my life with his
       | books. "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" is obviously his best known
       | classic, but in our house "Dream Snow" was the most popular.
       | 
       | https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Snow-Eric-Carle/dp/0399235795/
       | 
       | It's a great Christmas/Winter book. Definitely get the bigger,
       | hardcover version. The illustrations are great and at the end of
       | the story your kid will get to push a button and make some
       | peaceful musical notes play.
        
       | gabagool wrote:
       | This title should say that he died. Right now it boils down to
       | "Eric Carle" which does not signify a news event.
        
         | airstrike wrote:
         | +1. 'Eric Carle, writer and illustrator of The Very Hungry
         | Caterpillar, has died' is shorter than the current title so it
         | should work.
        
       | duxup wrote:
       | Mr Rogers visited him once:
       | 
       | https://www.misterrogers.org/videos/eric-carle/
        
       | robmaceachern wrote:
       | "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" will always have a special place in
       | my heart. I can't begin to describe how fond my memories are of
       | my two year old son reciting the words on the Saturday page for
       | the first time:
       | 
       | "On Saturday, he ate through one piece of chocolate cake, one
       | ice-cream cone, one pickle, one slice of Swiss cheese, one slice
       | of salami, one lollipop, one piece of cherry pie, one sausage,
       | one cupcake, and one slice of watermelon.
       | 
       | That night he had a stomach ache."
       | 
       | Such a precious memory for me. Thank you Eric Carle. RIP.
        
       | philshem wrote:
       | TIL, the stomach-ache scene was forced by the publisher...
       | https://twitter.com/unfortunatalie/status/139787073540681728...
        
         | hyko wrote:
         | Wow.
        
         | philshem wrote:
         | Can no longer edit, but might be a fake parody interview from
         | the Paris Review. Sorry.
         | 
         | https://twitter.com/buckwilson/status/1397930890446229504
         | 
         | https://twitter.com/AviTheNaftali/status/1397928222809939968
        
       | Stratoscope wrote:
       | I loved Eric's books, and my daughters loved having me read the
       | books to them some 20 years ago.
       | 
       | It's funny, as I read Eric's obituary I can hear my own voice
       | reading those books to my daughters so long ago.
       | 
       | RIP Eric, and thank you for bringing us so many good times.
        
       | frakt0x90 wrote:
       | I absolutely loved that book as a kid and still remember the art
       | very clearly 25+ years later. Crazy how such simple things can
       | have such long lasting impressions.
        
       | sangd wrote:
       | I have this book and I have never looked him up until seeing this
       | post today. All of my three daughters love this book and I didn't
       | quite understand why as I grew up in a different culture. RIP
       | Eric. You've done great work for this world!
        
         | vlunkr wrote:
         | I didn't really understand why kids like it so much at first,
         | but here's what I think, in very few words it explores lots of
         | things: counting, days of the week, day/night cycle, lots of
         | foods, separating fruit from junk food, and of the lifecycle of
         | butterflies. Kids will find something engaging in there.
        
           | nend wrote:
           | Plus the holes. Kids can't seem to stop themselves from
           | interacting with it.
        
       | MandieD wrote:
       | It's the first book I remember reading in both English (as a
       | small child) and German (in college), and now my German-American
       | baby is growing up with it in both languages.
        
       | navbaker wrote:
       | We have a small collection of his other books that are favorites
       | with our 3 and 5 year old kids. "Pancakes, Pancakes", "The Tiny
       | Seed", and "A House for Hermit Crab" in particular are regular
       | reads at bedtime.
        
         | dvaun wrote:
         | Interesting. My oldest also loves all three of these books,
         | while his younger brother loves "The Very Hungry Caterpillar".
         | 
         | They're great books to make funny sounds with. They're also
         | great for asking our kids questions about the stories.
        
       | sen wrote:
       | The Very Hungry Caterpillar is probably the single most important
       | kids book in my extended family. It was the first book I got as a
       | kid due to my dad loving it, and Mum sewed me a little toy which
       | was my favourite toy for many years.
       | 
       | It the became a "thing" where it was the first book we got for
       | every kid born in my extended family, and now that I have my own
       | kids 40+ years later it was the first I got for them too. They
       | both know it by rote, have the toys, had the bed sheets,
       | everything. They're now in the early years of school and still
       | absolutely love the story and have the posters in their rooms
       | despite them being "old" for it.
       | 
       | RIP Eric. You've left an amazing mark on the world.
        
         | Pxtl wrote:
         | What's fascinating about the Very Hungry Caterpillar was that
         | the "stomach ache" and nice green leaf was forced upon him by
         | his publisher. He wanted it to be "caterpillar eats lots of
         | silly things because he's hungry, becomes huge, becomes
         | butterfly".
         | 
         | The moralizing "nice green leaf" was neither his idea nor
         | desired.
        
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