[HN Gopher] Hacking the Silvercrest (Lidl) Smart Home Gateway ___________________________________________________________________ Hacking the Silvercrest (Lidl) Smart Home Gateway Author : homarp Score : 64 points Date : 2021-05-29 16:13 UTC (6 hours ago) (HTM) web link (paulbanks.org) (TXT) w3m dump (paulbanks.org) | londons_explore wrote: | > The server has some brute force protection whereby failed | logins will cause the device to stop this server for an | increasing amount of time. The device has to be left switched on | for the anti-brute force timer to expire because the failure | counter is stored persistently in the flash. | | Excellent! This is the way security should be done if you have to | use a password like here. | | Too many devices either don't have brute force detection, or | don't persist their intervals meaning a reboot gives you new | attempts. | mongol wrote: | I think the Lidl tools brands are the best value for money you | can buy, in a lower price segment. There are other brands that | are best vale for money in higher price segments, but for tools | you only use occasionally, I think Lidl is on top. | gorbypark wrote: | I have a few of their bulbs (decent) and motion sensors (junk) | running on Home Assistant on an RPi. Might have to pick one of | these up to play around with. | aritmo wrote: | In Spain it is 17.99EUR - https://www.lidl.es/es/central- | domotica-zigbee-smart-home/p1... | londons_explore wrote: | I'm surprised this device has so many electronics in it... | | Considering it is basically an ethernet<=>Zigbee bridge, and | never needs to send more than a few bytes at a time, I would have | designed it with a Wifi ESP8266 connected to a zigbee module. | | With that setup you could probably cut the retail price in half, | which has to be important for a device nobody really wants | (People get excited about their new smart bulbs... Nobody cares | about the pesky gateway device) | Denvercoder9 wrote: | Putting extra hardware in there to allow it to run Linux is | probably less expensive than the savings from being able to | target Linux for your software. | Moosdijk wrote: | https://www.lidl.de/de/silvercrest-gateway-drahtloses-verbin... | | 25 euros at Lidl de | everyone wrote: | Is there any reason why one sees so many black PCBs nowadays, | instead of the 'normal' green? Is it simply fashion? Or is there | a new cheaper / better black material being used? | | .. | | I definitely dont like the look of it.. Black chips on a black | background.. makes the board harder to 'read' at a glance imo. | | Edit: Answered my own question.. https://www.quick-pcba.com/pcb- | news/questions-about-black-pc... | | It is simply fashion + this : Anti-plagiarism. Because the traces | of black PCB are difficult to distinguish with the naked eye. | | Also seems there are some disadvantages of not using green. | clairity wrote: | with this, hopefully we are one step closer to a consumer retail | home assistant box that users can deploy locally without the | cloud integration that every company is in a frenzy to lock you | in to. | andylynch wrote: | Hass.io already sells their blue box (https://www.home- | assistant.io/blue) but an rpi works nicely too. The Lidl | gateways and similar zigbee hubs aren't really necessary in a | hass.io setup once you plug in a (pretty cheap) USB zigbee | stick. | clairity wrote: | that's also a good step forward, but with all due respect to | hass, it's not a consumer retail brand (yet?). ideally, we'd | get a little box like an apple tv/airport express where you | plug it in, it finds all the zigbee (and thread) devices in | range, and then let's you validate and configure those by | walking around and pointing your phone/tablet camera at each | one (hopefully validated via uwb/nfc rather than qr code). ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-05-29 23:00 UTC)