[HN Gopher] Phacility Is Winding Down, Phabricator No Longer Act... ___________________________________________________________________ Phacility Is Winding Down, Phabricator No Longer Actively Maintained Author : carwyn Score : 69 points Date : 2021-05-29 21:35 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (admin.phacility.com) (TXT) w3m dump (admin.phacility.com) | Aeolun wrote: | This post about shuttering operations is quite devoid of reasons. | I can't imagine customers would be happy about that. | geuis wrote: | Phabricator is used at some very large companies like Pinterest. | It's easily the best general purpose tools of its kind I've used. | I won't be surprised if management gets picked up by someone | soon. | smitty1e wrote: | "Phabricator is a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) application." | dmitriid wrote: | So? | Dylan16807 wrote: | So this post has absolutely zero context. | smitty1e wrote: | Try to give it some, get mod bombed. So it goes. | lima wrote: | You got downvoted the boring way. | iamcreasy wrote: | I think what this application does add more context than | its tech stack. | 01100011 wrote: | Too bad. Phabricator was a great tool for handling various | aspects of a software project(SCM integration, task tracking, | messaging, code reviews, etc). I used it on a couple of projects | and it seemed to work very well. | ChrisMarshallNY wrote: | Not familiar with it, but their installation guide is one of the | best I've ever seen. | saurik wrote: | Phabricator had seemed to be the only good product in this space | when I had looked; what are people even using instead? (I guess | they just put up with GitHub :/.) | axk wrote: | Gerrit is solid: https://www.gerritcodereview.com/ | Jonanin wrote: | The UI is atrocious, unfortunately. | [deleted] | lima wrote: | Check again - it got a serious makeover recently. It's | still far from intutive, but so much better than it used to | be. | | It's a power user tool that has a slight learning curve. | kemayo wrote: | Gerrit is good, if opinionated in ways that we have to put | work into onboarding for. That said, it only covers a small | subset of what Phabricator does -- it's missing the entire | issue tracker part, most importantly. | lima wrote: | Ack! Recently moved from Phabricator to Gerrit and deleting | Arcanist was a plus. | geraldcombs wrote: | It'd be nice if it had a tightly integrated issue tracker and | CI. | JoshTriplett wrote: | Does it still desperately want you to squash all your | patches, or does it do a good job of handling an ordered | stack of patches these days? | lima wrote: | It does an excellent job handling stacks! You may be | mistaking it for Phabricator, which defaults to squashing. | kemayo wrote: | I suspect that JoshTriplett is complaining about the | `amend` workflow required to update a single gerrit patch | with revisions. | | If you're used to the GitHub pull request style, you'd be | more likely to make a small commit and add it to the | request. In gerrit that approach results in a separate | patch for review, which isn't what such a person would | want. | | (Personally, I've come to appreciate gerrit's model for | strongly encouraging building patches that are | encapsulated single-reviewable-changes, in a way that | lends itself to never having a commit that'd break the | build if you landed on it e.g. during a git bisect.... | But it's also something that surprises people who've not | used gerrit before, in my experience.) | Hamuko wrote: | Most of the stuff that Phabricator was used at our company is | now done in (self-hosted) Gitlab. I think the only thing that's | still actively there is credential management, and I can only | imagine there are better solutions for that than Phabricator. | woleium wrote: | gitlab is good and can still be self hosted | codeapprove wrote: | That's a shame, heard only good things about those tools. | | Shameless but timely plug: I'm building a much better code review | tool for teams on GitHub. Check out https://codeapprove.com and | if you're interested to hear more just email me (sam at habosa | dot com). | lima wrote: | Reviewable is another similar review improvement tool for | GitHub: https://reviewable.io | | ...or just use Gerrit[1], which can do everything these do out | of the box, and has a much nicer workflow than GitHub once you | got over the learning curve. | | [1]: https://www.gerritcodereview.com | carwyn wrote: | Slightly more here: | https://secure.phabricator.com/w/changelog/2021.22/ | | Shame, the code review was good and one of the few that supported | task dependencies :( | ZuLuuuuuu wrote: | Is there a summary of why this product is not maintained anymore? | From time to time I would hear about Phabricator, but I didn't | know that the project was in trouble. | woleium wrote: | I'd guess it's not profitable for them? | abbe98 wrote: | I always had a good experience with Phabricator, especially its | customization/dashboards. | | Wikimedia still uses it[1]. | | [1]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ | nine_k wrote: | To clarify: this applies not just to phabricator-dot-com, but | Phabricator the software: | https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/commit/9ceb66453501... | | This is unexpected. Many companies, among them as well-resourced | as Facebook, use Phabricator. I wonder if it will be forked soon | by some party interested in keeping it around. OTOH it looks like | none such party exists, because the public sources have not been | updated literally for years. Maybe everyone interested just runs | their private fork :( | | Phabricator should be reasonably easy to self-host anyway. | iamcreasy wrote: | I think Blender and KDE uses Phabricator as well. | solarkraft wrote: | KDE has been in the process switching away (to Gitlab) for a | while. | rachelbythebay wrote: | FB's phabricator went its own way long ago. I imagine this has | exactly zero impact on their day to day. | | Put it this way: the last time I saw it, they still had the | "clowncopterize" button. Try finding that anywhere else. | lima wrote: | > _This is unexpected._ | | They've been down to only one developer (Evan himself) for a | while. Still sad :( | | https://secure.phabricator.com/differential/query/all/ | andrewmcwatters wrote: | Man, in my opinion, in software, things don't really get started | until after surviving for about 10 years or so. Everything else | is fleeting. | | Quite nice to see it saw 11 years, though. | bogota wrote: | I got to meet evan once when i was in SF. Phabricator was one of | a few pieces of software that actually brought me joy when using. | I will always miss the diff review process now that my current | company is moving from phabricator to github and i'll be unlikely | to ever use it at a company again with this update. | | Thanks Evan for all the work you have put in over the years. Some | of my biggest learnings as an engineer have been from reading and | interacting with you on the phabricator secure server and reading | your code when extending phab for companies. | kludgeoldfart wrote: | Phuck | evilelectron wrote: | Sad news indeed :( | ferdowsi wrote: | Whoa. Really, really disappointed about this. The Phabricator | approach to reviews and merges was incredibly impactful on a | previous team. It encouraged discipline and an informative main | branch that was always linked to reviews, and free of commits | like "fixing lint errors" and "actually fix lint errors, for | real". | https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabflavor/article/recom... | | The task management system isn't bad either, considering how weak | Github's is and how bloated JIRA is. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-05-29 23:00 UTC)