[HN Gopher] BitClout collapses everything into money
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       BitClout collapses everything into money
        
       Author : hhs
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2021-06-10 21:34 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | tppiotrowski wrote:
       | Is this just a two paragraph article or am I missing a 'read
       | more' somewhere?
        
         | viraptor wrote:
         | You're probably missing some kind of "read more", or maybe
         | block a paywall? https://outline.com/VALNKr
        
       | throwawayay02 wrote:
       | Imagine paying to "like" someone online. A fool and their
       | money...
        
       | perihelions wrote:
       | The idea of tabulated reputation as a currency dates back to at
       | least 2003 [0] (and I'd speculate is probably much older than I
       | know about). It's an interesting discussion, independent of the
       | coin-of-the-week trying to cash in on the idea of it.
       | 
       | [0]
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_and_Out_in_the_Magic_King...
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       |  _" Cory Doctorow: Wealth Inequality Is Even Worse in Reputation
       | Economies"_ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11226549
       | 
       | Previous threads specific to cryptocurrency implementations:
       | 
       |  _" A New Digital Currency Whose Value Is Based on Your
       | Reputation"_ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8053051
       | 
       |  _" Whuffie - how to build a reputation currency in Ethereum?
       | (2014)"_ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13427028
        
       | bko wrote:
       | >Wen didn't have any money of his own. (This past January, he had
       | a balance of negative sixteen dollars in his Royal Bank of Canada
       | savings account.) But his mom had some bitcoin, which she'd
       | bought a few months earlier after hearing about it from a friend
       | on WeChat. She lent all of it to her son, and he then converted a
       | hundred and fifty dollars' worth of it to bitclout.... We spoke
       | on April 30th. At that point, he owned multiple BitClout
       | profiles, which he told me had reached a combined estimated value
       | of half a million dollars. Today, he's grown that figure to
       | approximately $1.7 million, or nine thousand and four bitclout,
       | or sixty-eight hundred pairs of AirPods Pro. "To me, it's just
       | numbers," Wen said.
       | 
       | Wow, the article read like it was written by BitClout PR. Stories
       | like this with no balance are incredibly irresponsible.
       | 
       | Glosses over the fact that its closed source and anonymous
       | founders. Towards the end they also mention that there's no
       | official way to get your money out:
       | 
       | > When he discovered that there was no official way to get his
       | money out of BitClout, he saw an opportunity.
       | 
       | Is it just me that sees all these things as red flags? The
       | article compares the founder to Bitcoin's founder, although they
       | do mention the possibility of "the beginnings of grift"
       | 
       | > It is unclear why the main founder insists on anonymity, though
       | it may have something to do with mimicking Satoshi Nakamoto, the
       | pseudonym used by the unknown founder of Bitcoin. Whatever the
       | reason, diamondhands runs the risk of creating a kind of
       | Elizabeth Holmes effect: like her Steve Jobs-inspired black
       | turtleneck, the BitClout founder's mimicry of Nakamoto may appear
       | less like a signal of validity and more like the beginnings of a
       | grift.
       | 
       | > (On June 12th, the supply of bitclout will be capped at fewer
       | than 11.5 million coins, at which point the price of the currency
       | will be determined purely by supply and demand.)
       | 
       | It's no coincidence this came out 2 days before the advertised
       | "deflation bomb". What happened to journalism?
        
       | Animats wrote:
       | BitClout really exists, but it may be a scam. You can buy their
       | coins, but not sell them.
        
         | mkohlmyr wrote:
         | I don't think there's much of a doubt. For a great overview:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsERRF39YiM (edit: oh and the
         | follow-up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBZ4v2-XynU)
        
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