[HN Gopher] Mary Mallon
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       Mary Mallon
        
       Author : fortran77
       Score  : 36 points
       Date   : 2021-06-14 04:07 UTC (18 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (en.wikipedia.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (en.wikipedia.org)
        
       | dsnuh wrote:
       | I just wanted to use this as an opportunity to call out what I
       | believe to be the finest song about Mary Mallon, by the finest
       | musical act named after Mary Mallon...
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       | "Plagues and Bacon" by Hail Mary Mallon (Aesop Rock and Rob
       | Sonic). Some NSFW lyrics. It's a jam.
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/pNCM5CmxYSQ
        
       | munk-a wrote:
       | It might be a good idea to include her common alias (Typhoid
       | Mary) somewhere in the title, considering that moniker is far
       | more prominent than her legal name.
        
         | wearywanderer wrote:
         | I think her real name must be generally known and associated
         | with her nickname. I've never gone out of my way to learn
         | anything about her [before today] but I knew who this was about
         | just from the title. I think I must have picked up this
         | knowledge through general pop culture.
        
         | fortran77 wrote:
         | I thought it was an interesting story to review in the modern
         | times of pandemics, quarantines, and panics.
        
         | elihu wrote:
         | ...on the other hand, the article notes that she hated being
         | called that.
         | 
         | Calling her by her real name is a bit more respectful, and when
         | people click on the link without recognizing the name (as I
         | did), it serves as a good reminder that she was a regular human
         | being born with an unfortunate medical condition.
        
           | stickfigure wrote:
           | ...that she refused to acknowledge, causing (at least) tens
           | of deaths. I don't think we are obligated to show excessive
           | respect in this case.
        
             | btilly wrote:
             | In her defense, she was illiterate and was literally unable
             | to understand the evidence against her. How did they know
             | that she was giving people a disease that she never had?
             | And how did they know that there was no way that they
             | couldn't have caught it from elsewhere?
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             | How would you response if a government bureaucrat showed up
             | and told YOU that you can't be allowed work because you
             | have a unique condition never before seen by science? Would
             | you simply believe them?
        
             | QuercusMax wrote:
             | I feel there is a direct link between Typhoid Mary and
             | Covid-denying anti-maskers who cough in people's faces.
             | 
             | If you're a selfish asshole, you may get an unfortunate
             | nickname.
        
             | enjeyw wrote:
             | That was my instinctive reaction as well. However once I
             | learnt that the concept of asymptomatic carriers wasn't
             | even known at the time, and that she received negative
             | tests for typhoid, I became less convinced that I would
             | have behaved much differently.
        
       | omegaworks wrote:
       | Love that, instead of say paying her a small stipend, the state
       | decided that all it needed to do was have her sign away her only
       | means for obtaining a decent wage. Apparently no one in power
       | believed public health was worth more than $50 a month.
       | 
       | We truly have learned little as a society about how to deal with
       | infectious disease on a wide scale. Today, several state
       | governors are opting out of federal unemployment protection in an
       | effort to force people back into labor that doesn't value their
       | health and safety or pay enough to live decently[1].
       | 
       | 1. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/558229-first-
       | four-s...
        
         | blowski wrote:
         | Although the pandemic has been bad, the number of deaths is
         | proportionally much lower than both the 1918 and 1957
         | outbreaks. We still have a lot to learn, but government action
         | in this pandemic has prevented a lot of deaths.
        
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