[HN Gopher] 4-Day Workweek Boosted Workers' Productivity by 40%,...
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       4-Day Workweek Boosted Workers' Productivity by 40%, Microsoft
       Japan Says
        
       Author : evo_9
       Score  : 79 points
       Date   : 2021-06-16 21:36 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.npr.org)
        
       | ekianjo wrote:
       | Npr repeating the PR lies...
        
       | EGreg wrote:
       | Imagine how many companies would give their workers 4 day work
       | weeks and enjoy greater productivity, if we introduced a UBI (and
       | abolished labor unions and minimum wage laws).
        
       | hartator wrote:
       | Shouldn't productivity increase mathematically when reducing
       | number of hours?
       | 
       | Like if you reduce everyone to 10h per week. Sales may go down
       | from 4M to 3M but because hours went 4x less you can still claim
       | 300% increase in productivity. It doesn't meant anything in term
       | of efficiency, creativity, or actual performance of the
       | organization. I would be interested to see actual studies on
       | this.
        
         | forbiddenvoid wrote:
         | Productivity increased per week, not just per hour which is
         | significantly different.
        
         | routerl wrote:
         | You're confusing efficiency and productivity. Your example is
         | correct but is about efficiency. In the case of Microsoft
         | Japan, 40% more work was done in four fifths of the time, which
         | is a greater than 40% increase in efficiency.
        
       | jeffchuber wrote:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect
        
         | scotuswroteus wrote:
         | "This interpretation was dubbed "the Hawthorne effect,"
         | although the data does not support that view."
        
       | thinkingkong wrote:
       | Hidden in here is the "reasonable default" change for meetings
       | from 1 hour to 30 minutes.
       | 
       | If you havent already done so, go and change your entire
       | organizations default meeting length to 30 minutes. Force people
       | to justify why they need an hour. Still not sure why it isnt the
       | default.
        
         | dpeck wrote:
         | 25 minutes and everything starts at either XX:05 or XX:35.
         | 
         | People get to be human and do things like use the restroom, or
         | get a drink in between meetings without being flustered and
         | apologizing for being late.
        
           | travisjungroth wrote:
           | I've seen early endings but not late starts. That seems way
           | better.
        
             | zaphod12 wrote:
             | Everyone ignores early endings, late starts is so much
             | better!
        
         | macjohnmcc wrote:
         | I only lost 2 hours to meetings yesterday give or take.
        
         | FredPret wrote:
         | ...or even 0 minutes!
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | trentnix wrote:
       | 7-minute-abs! </something-about-Mary>
        
       | Philip-J-Fry wrote:
       | It's an old article, so did they continue it?
       | 
       | We see reports like this all the time but barely any companies
       | actually have the balls to go through with it long term.
        
         | hbcondo714 wrote:
         | From 2019, this is a popular topic on HN!
         | 
         | 210 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21433710
         | 
         | 242 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21441689
         | 
         | 149 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26495933
         | 
         | 30 commennts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21919721
        
           | jonas21 wrote:
           | The top comment in the third link points out that Microsoft
           | Japan later walked back the productivity claim:
           | 
           |  _In the announcement dated October 31, one of the listed
           | "improvements" from the 2019 Summer Work-Life Choice
           | Challenge was an increase of 39.9% in labor productivity
           | (sales revenue per employee) in August 2019 compared to
           | August 2018, with a graph below._
           | 
           |  _While this number is factual, it is not solely the result
           | of this challenge, and was achieved due to a number of
           | different factors._
           | 
           |  _To avoid misunderstanding, we have removed that claim from
           | the above summary of the direct effects of the challenge._
        
         | cuddlybacon wrote:
         | Yeah. I'm interested if it was extended or not. I cannot really
         | tell from the article.
         | 
         | I expect this works great for 2 to 3 months when it is novel
         | and everyone is keen to prove it works, but will begin to
         | regress back after that. Where it ends up longterm is the big
         | deal.
        
           | toomuchtodo wrote:
           | Hopefully the results out of Spain's trial are positive!
           | 
           | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/15/spain-to-
           | launc... (March 2021: Spain to launch trial of four-day
           | working week)
        
       | hellbannedguy wrote:
       | Construction should be a 4 day work week.
       | 
       | I remember my father telling me about a push to a 4 day work week
       | in the 80's at local 6 in San Francisco.
       | 
       | For some reason, the union officials didn't want it. Looking back
       | the contractors probally nixed it?)
       | 
       | I remember how sad my father was over that. He was getting older,
       | and wanted a job easier on his body, and he thought the 4 day
       | work week would be enough time to start a side business.
       | 
       | I did electrical for awhile, and mirrored his thinking. I used to
       | think 10 hr days were not a problem. (Union construction. Mon-
       | union construction is way harder work.)
        
       | tamrix wrote:
       | I feel like they're trying to sell me 4 day work weeks when they
       | include cut electricity cost and paper usage in their opening
       | paragraph.
        
       | chrisseaton wrote:
       | > they printed nearly 60 percent fewer pages
       | 
       | What on earth are they _printing_ at Microsoft?
        
         | robotresearcher wrote:
         | Draft resumes?
         | 
         | </friendly_banter>
        
         | kosvke wrote:
         | Unfortunately, everything is printed in the work culture in
         | Japan.
        
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