[HN Gopher] Apple Makes Mac OS X Lion and Mountain Lion Free to ...
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Apple Makes Mac OS X Lion and Mountain Lion Free to Download
Author : tosh
Score : 71 points
Date : 2021-06-30 20:26 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| grishka wrote:
| It's nice of Apple to acknowledge the existence of older versions
| of their software. It's a rarity these days.
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| Was it ever not a rarity?
| grishka wrote:
| It wasn't back when software was distributed on physical
| media and there wasn't this "update culture". You were
| expected to update to a newer version of an OS if you want
| to, not because you have to in order to keep the ability to
| use the internet on hardware you already have.
| rainonmoon wrote:
| This is a really glib view of the vast and complicated
| reasons people are encouraged to update their OS. It's not
| mere whimsy that in a rapidly developing malware landscape,
| updating your OS is a necessity.
| FridayoLeary wrote:
| Maybe they were slightly more naive about it(?)
| buildbot wrote:
| Archive.org has OS Retail DVDs for at least Tiger:
| https://archive.org/details/macosx10.4tigerretaildvd
|
| But this is awesome! Lots of old photo software will no longer
| run on modern MacOS
| underseacables wrote:
| I thought they were all free to download?
| ksherlock wrote:
| "Apple has kept OS X 10.7 Lion and OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
| available for customers who have machines limited to the older
| software, but until recently, Apple was charging $19.99 to get
| download codes for the updates."
| agnokapathetic wrote:
| 10.9 was the first "free" macOS release, prior to that, it was
| a paid upgrade.
| underseacables wrote:
| Well time to upgrade the 2014 MacBook Pro!
| Lammy wrote:
| 10.1 was _kinda_ free
| https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2001/10/macosx-10-1/2/
|
| "Mac OS X 10.1 was released on September 29th, 2001, but that
| date depends on your definition of "released." Update CDs
| were handed out for free after Apple's keynote speech at the
| Seybold publishing conference in San Francisco. People who
| did not attend Seybold have several ways to get the update.
| Starting on the 25th, free update CDs are being handed out at
| Apple stores and some other retail outlets. This free update
| does not include the developer tools, but those can be
| downloaded by all ADC online members (free registration
| required) from Apple's web site. Finally, owners of Mac OS X
| 10.0 can order a full update containing a Mac OS 9.2.1 CD, a
| Mac OS X 10.1 update CD, and a developer tools CD through
| Apple's Mac OS X Up-to-Date program at a cost of $19.95 (plus
| state tax). The 10.1 update is not available for free
| download."
| galago wrote:
| I picked up the 10.1 CD at my university bookstore. It was
| still incredibly slow. I'm pretty sure I was using it on a
| beige G3 PPC with 256MB of RAM. I thought it was super
| cool, the new version of NeXT, but I was still doing actual
| work on a PC running RedHat or Win2000.
| kps wrote:
| Remember when people actually wanted updates, so much that
| they'd _pay_ for them?
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| They finally remembered - hey, why are we charging for this?
| twobitshifter wrote:
| I've been trying to run a 32 bit app on my 128 GB MacBook Air and
| it's been a huge PITA. Xcode requires you to be on the latest
| version which means that I had to upgrade after uninstalling many
| apps and cleaning up. It requires something like 30 GB free to
| get to Big Sur. Then I finally get to trying to download Mojave
| to install but the App Store doesn't allow a download when you're
| in a newer version - so I have to go to another site that
| specializes in this type of thing- and then make a VM for Mojave
| on a machine with no memory so I have to move your things to an
| external hard drive. I still haven't finished the install to be
| able to run one 32 bit app I wanted to dig into. Any suggestions
| would be welcome.
| samtheprogram wrote:
| You can download older versions of Xcode via
| https://developer.apple.com/downloads -- if you don't care
| about shipping anything to an Apple walled garden but just want
| to dig into some old software, definitely stay on an older
| version of OS X and grab an older copy of Xcode.
| walrus01 wrote:
| are there still security updates for those, making them safe to
| use directly exposed to the internet?
| macintux wrote:
| Looking through this page, it looks like the last mention of
| 10.8 was 2017. Definitely not safe on the Internet.
|
| https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| Mountain Lion support ended November 2015. Lion support ended
| October 2014.
| geoffmunn wrote:
| Any chance of getting Snow Leopard? That was the most stable
| version I've ever used.
| ChuckMcM wrote:
| Still have the original Snow Leopard disk that came with my
| older Macbook. I agree it was peak MacOS.
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| Until very recently, you could actually still buy Snow Leopard
| from the Apple Store in boxed format until early 2021.
| Apparently, MacOS versions 10.5 and earlier couldn't upgrade to
| MacOS Lion or later without updating to Snow Leopard first.
| Probably had to do with the Mac App Store distribution, and for
| that reason, Snow Leopard was on sale for a long time.
|
| Some users on Reddit though said that until Apple removed it,
| there were long shipping times... almost as if some lackey was
| manually burning discs and putting stickers on them, but who
| knows?
|
| Anyway, you can still find them on eBay for that reason.
| https://www.ebay.com/itm/203505863379?hash=item2f61e50ad3:g:...
| nr2x wrote:
| The platonic ideal of an OS.
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