[HN Gopher] Expressive Animator: free software vector animation ... ___________________________________________________________________ Expressive Animator: free software vector animation and motion graphics editor Author : brylie Score : 83 points Date : 2021-07-10 10:09 UTC (1 days ago) (HTM) web link (www.expressivesuite.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.expressivesuite.com) | dylan604 wrote: | >Supported browsers: Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge | | You forget the best viewed at 800x600 badge! | | Seriously though, why is this even necessary? What are you doing | that can't be done in FF or Safari? | p_j_w wrote: | >What are you doing that can't be done in FF or Safari? | | It actually works in FF, so maybe testing to make sure it | works? If their Github account is accurate, this is done by a 3 | person team, so resources for that sort of thing are probably | not abundant. | dylan604 wrote: | How about Dev A = Chromium, Dev B = FF, Dev C = Safari? | Zababa wrote: | Are you going to pay them money for the FF and Safari | version? Or maybe contribute some code? | dylan604 wrote: | I'm contributing by offering suggestions on how to | maximize the use of their time. I'm not even asking for a | consultant's fee. | Zababa wrote: | That's not maximizing the use of their time. Why spend | time supporting platforms to please someone complaining | on HN that will never use and never contribute to their | project? | hutzlibu wrote: | "Seriously though, why is this even necessary? What are | you doing that can't be done in FF or Safari?" | | Do you really think this is a helpful suggestion? | | You are simply suggesting more work for the dev. That is | not really helpful. | dylan604 wrote: | So what don't you simply answer the question of what's | being done that they feel the need to call out Chromium | based browsers? | hutzlibu wrote: | Like the other poster said: testing. | | The browsers still do not provide a consistent behavior. | | When your goal is to ship main features as soon as | possible, you cannot give priority to a niche browser. | brylie wrote: | Another commenter pointed out that Firefox doesn't yet | offer PWA support. | adamnemecek wrote: | What's crazy is that they seem to be using a js (wasm) port of | skia. | | https://github.com/ExpressiveSuite/SkiaJS | | edit: upon closer inspection it seems to be a wrapper, not a | port. | stoicjumbotron wrote: | Woah! On a side note, William Candillon, one of the developers | (creators?) of reanimated[0], animation library for React | Native replied to the first comment in one of his YouTube | videos[1] that the team is looking into integrating Skia into | React Native for better performance. | | [0]: https://www.reanimated2.com/ | | [1]: https://youtu.be/RHlGPIEThdo | rchaud wrote: | Hard to understand what this offers. The linked web page barely | says anything. The roadmap links to a Github page that is even | less clear. | egypturnash wrote: | My immediate question as a cranky ex-animator who occasionally | thinks of trying to get back into it: | | Can I draw stuff directly in this, or is this just an After | Effects to your as-yet-unreleased Canvas's Illustrator? | | And by "draw" I don't mean "hassle with the pen tool and basic | shape tools that I see down the edge of the toolbar in your | screenshot", I mean "quickly draw lines with some kind of | pencil/brush, and do some kind of simulation of frame-by-frame | animation". | | The screenshots just look like After Effects, and, well, that's | just one visit to the Creative Cloud app away for me. | hutzlibu wrote: | To me it seems, it aims to be something like Adobe Animate | (formerly Flash), which is really something we need OpenSource. | | But there would be lot's and lot's of work to be done, to | really compete with it(I cannot find any drawing tools as of | now). But it looks good so far, I think. | bogwog wrote: | Seems pretty solid, but very barebones. There doesn't even seem | to be a way to change the interpolation curves between keyframes | (unless I missed it?) | | The open source world needs more tools like this, so keep it up! | I'll certainly be watching this. | | _EDIT_ I just saw this: | | > Supported browsers: Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge | | That's not good. I tried the preview in Firefox and it seemed to | work fine. You do you, but if you're only targeting Chrome then | count me as one potential user/customer lost. | lights0123 wrote: | That's directly under | | > Cross-platform, online and offline | | > Work directly online in the browser or install the PWA | (progressive web application) and enjoy a fully offline | experience. | | Chrome and Edge support PWAs, while Firefox does not. | | Of course, I could be interpreting this wrong, as saving and | loading does not work in Firefox. | Reubend wrote: | Looks really nice. I think you've done a good job with the | landing page. The app itself is pretty barebones right now and | doesn't seem to support importing images or exporting video | (correct me if I'm wrong)? | | I'm curious how you plan to handle rendering the animations to a | video. I think that will be a really challenging part to do in- | browser, but maybe there are some libraries for this that I'm | unaware of. | dylan604 wrote: | Someone has already compiled ffmpeg into wasm, so there's that | as an option. As slow as that might be, but it could be done. | detritus wrote: | I'm afraid that I disagree with your appreciation of the | landing page. It seems, from first blush, that I can't get an | immediate sense of what it does and how it does so, exactly. A | link to some video description or example would be handy. | | I can't even find something on YouTube? | | Do I have to install and see? If so, that seems like a wee bit | of a high bar. | bonestamp2 wrote: | Agreed. As soon as I knew it was an animation tool, my next | question was: which formats can it output? That would tell me | a lot about what I can use it for and infer some things about | what it does. That is not answered on the landing page. | | Even after using the app, I can't figure out how to | save/export to any format other than their own (eaf). Maybe | that's why they don't mention it on the landing page. I have | high hopes, but it needs more work before it'll be useful to | the masses. | devwastaken wrote: | One way would be to connect the browser version to a desktop | version, so you can save your project and open it in desktop | which can access video encoding. | johndough wrote: | Two options to record canvas to video file: | | 1. MediaRecorder (requires browser support) | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStream... | | 2. ffmpeg.wasm https://github.com/ffmpegwasm/ffmpeg.wasm/ | cycomanic wrote: | Can this animate and export svgs? I have been looking for | something that can do that for a while but didn't really find a | satisfying solution so ended up manually editing the svgs (which | is quite laborious). | brudgers wrote: | Repository, https://github.com/ExpressiveSuite/ExpressiveAnimator ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-07-11 23:00 UTC)