[HN Gopher] Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan in a box
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Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan in a box
Author : phpnode
Score : 40 points
Date : 2021-07-13 21:25 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote:
| >Until then, he remains a once-big-fish in a small pond, living
| in exile and under armed guard in Beirut for the foreseeable
| future.
|
| How secure is he in Beruit? If Japan really wanted him badly, I
| would guess he would be pretty easy for Israeli Mossad to pick
| up.
| wk_end wrote:
| It's pretty easy for Mossad to pick up whoever they want, but
| he's accused of white-collar crime, not matters of national
| security; I'd be surprised if Israel (or any other country)
| would be willing to deploy their intelligence services and
| violate another nation's sovereignty over it. Is that something
| they've ever done?
| yborg wrote:
| Lebanon is an economic disaster area right now, so while this
| won't directly affect the fabulously wealthy Ghosn, he's
| ironically sort of imprisoned in a failing state.
| sova wrote:
| So amazing. Haha. Wow. Very ballsy move but given the alternative
| outcome probably the nicest outcome possible. Serves as a nice
| real-world dramatic thriller of sorts. It worked. And it'll
| probably be the only time this ever works. But still, a great use
| of that one time.
|
| I find it really interesting that Ghosn (I'm just gonna call him
| "Ghost," k) was head of two other gigantic car monoliths and
| actually reduced Nissan's expenditures. Given Japan's "employed
| for life" culture that still pervades a great deal of companies,
| I wonder if that rubbed people the wrong way. Pure speculation, I
| don't know what cuts were made. What I find really impressive is
| that he can run a car company so well that he's recruited by
| other companies to take the reins for a while. Talent that can
| migrate among organizations and boost them all a little bit. I
| suppose what works at one will probably work at another.
|
| To get to that role, I wonder if he started in an executive space
| or rode a small car-related company up to the stratosphere and
| then moved laterally, or what.
|
| Complimentary joke: He is one of the quietest musical instruments
| around.
| indigodaddy wrote:
| " Documentary series Storyville details his extraordinary rise
| and sudden fall in Carlos Ghosn: The Last Flight which will be
| shown on BBC 4 on Wednesday 14 July."
|
| ^ Hoping this doc will make its way to American television..
| maybe PBS/Frontline?
| lkramer wrote:
| The whole story is a bit hard to untangle, but I wouldn't be
| surprised if both that he literally saved Nissan and funneled
| money off to personal projects is true. He strikes me as the type
| of executive who believe he can do what he wants as long as he
| shows result.
|
| It was rumoured that the house he lives in in Beirut actually
| belongs to Nissan and they've been trying to get him kicked out,
| but with little success.
| CRConrad wrote:
| How come this fucker gets to not only brag about evading justice,
| in stead of being rightly vilified for it, but is even given a
| platform to brag from by the most prestigious of media
| corporations?!?
|
| Why hasn't whatever country he's in -- Britain? -- clapped him in
| irons and extradited him the hell back to Japan? Are they even
| _officially_ condoning criminals escaping justice as long as they
| 're rich, these days? (Or is Ghosn giving interviews from some
| closet in the embassy of a third-world country where he's holed
| up, as seems traditional for fugitives on the lam in Britain
| nowadays?)
| fotta wrote:
| > Lebanon does not have an extradition treaty with Japan so Mr
| Ghosn has been allowed to remain there.
| [deleted]
| Decker87 wrote:
| You clearly did not read the article and know nothing of the
| situation.
| erdos4d wrote:
| Dude, you sound too stupid to be here, go back to reddit.
| sleepytimetea wrote:
| So, the justice system in Japan enforces additional restrictions
| after a person is out on bail ?
|
| He couldn't meet his wife seems like an unreasonable condition
| for someone out on bail. Also, is the justice system in Japan so
| backed up that he would have to wait years for it go to trial ?
| namelessoracle wrote:
| If you ever thought the American justice system is bad, look
| into the Japanese one. The whole system is designed to make you
| confess and apologize. They will literally lie to you and tell
| you it will all go away if you sign the confession paperwork.
|
| They also dont do trial by jury, but inquisitorial judges who
| you have to prove your innocence too. The judges their dont
| like you making them go to trial, so good luck proving your
| case, after all you should have confessed already.
|
| Also Japanese conditions in their detention systems makes the
| American system look down right palatial. The whole system is
| designed to punish even moreso than the American system.
| anonu wrote:
| Carlos should have taken the GM role when Obama called him about
| it. He would've made a lot more money and not been in this
| situation.
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