[HN Gopher] Crowdfunding Backer Patented My Project (2018) ___________________________________________________________________ Crowdfunding Backer Patented My Project (2018) Author : optimalsolver Score : 68 points Date : 2021-07-30 21:41 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (patentpandas.org) (TXT) w3m dump (patentpandas.org) | breck wrote: | Shameless plug: Help us pass a constitutional amendment to | abolish patents and copyrights (https://www.reddit.com/r/ifa/). | | Safety not guaranteed. I have only done this once before. | dang wrote: | Discussed at the time: | | _Crowdfunding Backer Patented My Project_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18568641 - Nov 2018 (46 | comments) | asxd wrote: | Wow, what a journey. I'm glad the original authors took such a | rational and mentally healthy approach to such a frustrating | situation. | | On the plus side, I'd never heard of Chibitronics, but it seems | so approachable that I am now strongly considering getting some | of the starter kits for my 8 y/o nephew :) | toss1 wrote: | Nice lesson that a patent, other than some possible value to the | marketing dept, is nothing more than a a ticket to start a | lawsuit. | | It does not actually prevent anyone else from infringing or doing | what they want, unless and until they hire the lawyers to attempt | to enforce it. | | Having a lot of published prior art may form a decent moat. Sure, | you'll have to defend, but if you fold, they get nothing, and if | you sustain the defense, they'll likely lose the patent entirely. | | She also makes a very good point about bridging patent- light and | patent-heavy sectors/cultures. | | Also relevant is Musk's choice with SpaceX at the other end of | the scale -- to forego patents entirely in favor of the trade | secret route. He figures that publishing in a patent would just | be tantamount to publishing manuals for the Chinese and also be | unenforceable... | | Patents sometimes seem almost magic, but they're really quite | limited. | jwilber wrote: | Wow, what an actual leech of a human this Jill MacKay. | | Disgusting sense of greed and lack of morals. | darig wrote: | Did you do any research of your own to validate these claims, | or do you just spout libel on command? | | Disgusting. | dang wrote: | Please don't fulminate or call names on HN. You may not owe a | rogue patenter better, but you owe this community better if | you're participating here. | | Please review the site guidelines and stick to them: | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. | jwilber wrote: | Sure. | | Wow, what an actual leech of a human, the literal subject of | the linked essay. | | Disgusting sense of greed and lack of morals. | musesum wrote: | You can sue in Pro Per(son) -- essential act as your own lawyer. | I know someone who studied the Law so he could sue his former | business partners. Most of it was a reverse deep pockets kinda | game: "It will cost you $300K in legal fees to defend yourself | ... or settle for a fraction of the cost." As a result, I and | colleagues ignore this troll. But, there are intriguing | implications ... | | For example: register the site patent<patent#>.com and use the | site to link to the facts. Maybe add the legal definition of "In | Pro Person." Thus, when someone does a search on the Patent #, | your disclosure site will appear. | | Another example: Claim copyright on the expression of the idea. | Thus, anyone attempting to express the patent would infringe on | the copyright. | | Disclaimer: IANAL. I could be off-base here. Get a valid legal | opinion to save yourself some grief. And good luck! | SV_BubbleTime wrote: | [2018] | | I think the author was also a guest on the Embedded.fm pod cast | where she or someone from PatentPandas explains the story more. | [0] | | Patent law on all topics can be summed up with one simple phrase. | Doesn't matter if you're applying, fighting, buying, all your | prior art, the number of sealed envelopes you mailed yourself, | testimony, claims, or anything else on the topic.... When it | comes to anything patent: | | _" You're going to need a lawyer"_ | | EDIT: Found it, https://embedded.fm/episodes/277 | plumeria wrote: | What about "Patent It Yourself: Your Step-by-Step Guide to | Filing at the U.S. Patent Office" by David Pressman? | kens wrote: | I applied for a patent after reading that book but was | unsuccessful (for various reasons). I successfully obtained | different patents with an attorney. I found what I learned | from the book to be very helpful when getting patents with an | attorney. | plumeria wrote: | Thanks for sharing your experience, I want to try to patent | something by myself. How much did you spend using an | attorney? | kens wrote: | Nothing, since I did the successful patents through my | employer :-) ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-07-30 23:00 UTC)