[HN Gopher] Comma Three Devkit
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       Comma Three Devkit
        
       Author : roborovskis
       Score  : 41 points
       Date   : 2021-07-31 20:43 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (comma.ai)
 (TXT) w3m dump (comma.ai)
        
       | evanescent wrote:
       | Has anyone here tried using one of these? On the surface they
       | seem to be relatively reliable and safe. I am tempted to get try
       | one out since their driver cam gives me confidence that I won't
       | become complacent while using one of these self-driving systems.
        
       | jalino23 wrote:
       | huge fan of the CEO. inspired me to use vim 7 months ago and it
       | increased my productivity
        
       | yewenjie wrote:
       | AFAIK Comma.ai is the only open-source company in the self-
       | driving cars space. It is very interesting that they are
       | continuously launching consumer-products with a small team and in
       | a highly competitive space where the other players are quite big.
        
         | alpaca128 wrote:
         | They have a more focused approach that simplifies it a lot.
         | Where others build whole self-driving cars Comma uses existing
         | interfaces and sensors in the vehicle. That's far less
         | complexity to worry about.
        
         | stefan_ wrote:
         | This does not in any shape or form compete in the self-driving
         | cars space; the thing doesn't have a rear camera!
         | 
         | This is basically the "rsync as Dropbox" approach to augmenting
         | your car with a hacky version of automatic cruise control, with
         | a bonus lawsuit should you ever be in a crash significant
         | enough to warrant the attention (think paralysis).
        
       | johnkg wrote:
       | Comma claimed today: $8.1M raised, $9M revenue, 5000+ comma twos
       | sold, 3500+ active users. Pretty cool for a open source company.
        
         | geoah wrote:
         | Need to watch the presentation still but I'd be more interested
         | in how many km/miles it has collectively driven.
        
       | valgaze wrote:
       | "The comma three devkit does not ship with any software. Once you
       | have the device you will be able to install any software you
       | choose at your own risk."
        
         | bitwidget wrote:
         | Makes sense, if they shipped with the software already
         | preinstalled, it would mean that they open themselves up to
         | liability and other legal issues. So they don't have it
         | installed as it's pretty easy to download and install from
         | their Github
        
           | bertil wrote:
           | I'm generally not a fan of that kind of fig-leaf (say "we are
           | not sharing weapons, just information" when encouraging
           | people to print a gun-shaped bobby trap that is more likely
           | to blow your hand than change anyone's mind about gun
           | control) but in this case, the veneer of technical engagement
           | seems to filter for, or encourage people who are excited
           | enough by self-driving that they actually pay attention and
           | send feedback.
        
             | seniorivn wrote:
             | that wasn't an original plan, but they were prohibited to
             | sell selfdriving kits, this is the workaround that works
        
             | robbedpeter wrote:
             | It's very likely a deliberate and precise execution of the
             | legal requirements to shield themselves from legal
             | liability, under the advice of lawyers. At each step, from
             | the coding to the hardware development to installation and
             | configuration the responsibility is clear.
             | 
             | The installer of both hardware and software ends up being
             | responsible for the use of the system in a way that is much
             | more legally clear than other automation systems or even
             | consumer software. Deliberate and informed choices are made
             | by entities completely outside the plausible influence of
             | developers.
             | 
             | It could get tricky in cases where the installer is not the
             | end user.
        
       | faebi wrote:
       | Dave Lee recently had an interesting interview with George Hotz
       | about self-driving cars and the future of AI:
       | https://youtu.be/q6iagfjs83U
        
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