[HN Gopher] Comma Three Devkit ___________________________________________________________________ Comma Three Devkit Author : roborovskis Score : 41 points Date : 2021-07-31 20:43 UTC (2 hours ago) (HTM) web link (comma.ai) (TXT) w3m dump (comma.ai) | evanescent wrote: | Has anyone here tried using one of these? On the surface they | seem to be relatively reliable and safe. I am tempted to get try | one out since their driver cam gives me confidence that I won't | become complacent while using one of these self-driving systems. | jalino23 wrote: | huge fan of the CEO. inspired me to use vim 7 months ago and it | increased my productivity | yewenjie wrote: | AFAIK Comma.ai is the only open-source company in the self- | driving cars space. It is very interesting that they are | continuously launching consumer-products with a small team and in | a highly competitive space where the other players are quite big. | alpaca128 wrote: | They have a more focused approach that simplifies it a lot. | Where others build whole self-driving cars Comma uses existing | interfaces and sensors in the vehicle. That's far less | complexity to worry about. | stefan_ wrote: | This does not in any shape or form compete in the self-driving | cars space; the thing doesn't have a rear camera! | | This is basically the "rsync as Dropbox" approach to augmenting | your car with a hacky version of automatic cruise control, with | a bonus lawsuit should you ever be in a crash significant | enough to warrant the attention (think paralysis). | johnkg wrote: | Comma claimed today: $8.1M raised, $9M revenue, 5000+ comma twos | sold, 3500+ active users. Pretty cool for a open source company. | geoah wrote: | Need to watch the presentation still but I'd be more interested | in how many km/miles it has collectively driven. | valgaze wrote: | "The comma three devkit does not ship with any software. Once you | have the device you will be able to install any software you | choose at your own risk." | bitwidget wrote: | Makes sense, if they shipped with the software already | preinstalled, it would mean that they open themselves up to | liability and other legal issues. So they don't have it | installed as it's pretty easy to download and install from | their Github | bertil wrote: | I'm generally not a fan of that kind of fig-leaf (say "we are | not sharing weapons, just information" when encouraging | people to print a gun-shaped bobby trap that is more likely | to blow your hand than change anyone's mind about gun | control) but in this case, the veneer of technical engagement | seems to filter for, or encourage people who are excited | enough by self-driving that they actually pay attention and | send feedback. | seniorivn wrote: | that wasn't an original plan, but they were prohibited to | sell selfdriving kits, this is the workaround that works | robbedpeter wrote: | It's very likely a deliberate and precise execution of the | legal requirements to shield themselves from legal | liability, under the advice of lawyers. At each step, from | the coding to the hardware development to installation and | configuration the responsibility is clear. | | The installer of both hardware and software ends up being | responsible for the use of the system in a way that is much | more legally clear than other automation systems or even | consumer software. Deliberate and informed choices are made | by entities completely outside the plausible influence of | developers. | | It could get tricky in cases where the installer is not the | end user. | faebi wrote: | Dave Lee recently had an interesting interview with George Hotz | about self-driving cars and the future of AI: | https://youtu.be/q6iagfjs83U ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-07-31 23:00 UTC)