[HN Gopher] Launch YC S21: Meet the Batch, Thread #6 ___________________________________________________________________ Launch YC S21: Meet the Batch, Thread #6 Welcome to another "Meet the Batch" thread for YC's S21 batch. The previous thread was https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28128957. The original announcement is at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27877280. There are 6 startups in this thread. The initial order is random: Kodex (YC S21) - Easy responses to government data requests - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28156465 HeyCharge (YC S21) - Low-cost EV charging in multi-user buildings - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28156463 Parallel Bio (YC S21) - Improving drug discovery by replacing animal models - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28156464 Secoda (YC S21) - Company data discovery tool for teams - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28156461 Oneistox (YC S21) - Skill-building, cohort-based courses for designers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28156462 Zeit Medical (YC S21) - Early detection of stroke - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28156466 Author : dang Score : 78 points Date : 2021-08-12 14:01 UTC (8 hours ago) | Etai wrote: | Hey HN, I'm Etai, together with Andrew a co-founder of Secoda | (https://www.secoda.co). Secoda is a collaborative workspace for | data teams that makes it easy to share metadata, queries, charts | and documentation with any employee. | | Companies store a growing amount of knowledge in BI tools, data | warehouses, data pipelines, queries and documentation. Because | these tools are not connected, it has become more difficult to | manage all of this. Even with great practices, organizations | still struggle to get value out of their data - up to 73% of all | enterprise data goes unused. One of the big contributors to this | problem is that organizations create data silos by not | documenting and centralizing their data knowledge in a single | place where every employee can access information about data. | | Today, most data teams end up documenting all this data with | Google Sheets or Confluence, which get outdated quickly. Because | data documentation is outdated and hard to find, employees | struggle to discover, understand and use it. This overwhelms data | teams with repetitive questions about how to use and where to | find company data. | | In our last roles, Andrew and I had a hard time understanding | context around different data resources. It was difficult to | understand which table to use, what dashboard to trust, who to | talk to about a particular metric or why we changed our pricing | model. All of this data knowledge was in our data teams head and | it made it really difficult to try to work with data. It would | take around 2 weeks to get an answer to any data request because | the data team was so backed up with questions. This sucked. | | Secoda is unique because it's focused on helping the data team | curate knowledge for the less technical employee. Data teams can | use the tool to curate knowledge for specific departments or | roles so that only the right people are able to see the data | knowledge that they should see. We currently integrate into data | warehouses, BI tools, dbt as well as Airflow and once teams | connect their data to Secoda, they can get a comprehensive view | of all their data knowledge in one place. | | We'd love to hear your feedback or experience with the problem | that we're solving and would be thrilled if you would sign up at | https://secoda.co to let us know what you think! | duck wrote: | You mention data lineage on your pricing page, but do you have | any examples of what that looks like? Can you support custom | lineages driven by an api? | andrewmcewen wrote: | An example of what lineage would look like is the following: | You have source tables A and B that are joined to create a | model C and then C is used in dashboard D. We are able to | infer the lineage A->C->D and B->C->D. | | We extract lineage in a couple of different ways. The main | way is by parsing SQL queries in your data warehouse to | determine which tables and dashboards are | upstream/downstream. The other way we extract lineage | information provided directly from dbt and BigQuery who have | nice APIs for this information. | | We are working releasing an API in Q4 that supports pushing | information from say an Airflow DAG to Secoda to give us more | lineage context. Hopefully this answers your questions. | sails wrote: | Very cool. How much of this working effectively depends on a | properly deployed dbt project? | andrewmcewen wrote: | Hi there, I'm the CTO of Secoda so happy to answer your | question. Our dbt integration works with dbt cloud, and are | working on making it compatible with dbt core as well. What | we'll pull from dbt via their API is the metadata associated | with the models, docs, and, jobs. We have a free version of | the platform, so you can sign up and test it out if you'd | like to see what that information looks like in Secoda. | reilly3000 wrote: | This addresses key usability issues with most data initiatives. | Don't be dismayed that people who haven't tried to share | reports with teams don't get it... I get it and I presume end | users will love it. There is a particular need for metadata | support in Google data studio that would be great if you could | help solve: there are no folders or any real way to curate data | outside of report sharing and leaving text boxes on the reports | themselves. It's kind of a nightmare for an otherwise powerful | and popular tool. | | I'd also like to see comment threads over data discoveries. | Like a snapshot of a report with in-context exploration would | be super helpful. In my experience the default behavior is a | report screenshot dropped into a slack thread, and I know there | can be better. QlikView does a decent job at this but it has | the trappings of enterprise software. I think that would unlock | a lot of value out of reports and give a place for teams to | understand opportunities and celebrate wins. Congrats on the | launch! | andrewmcewen wrote: | Thanks for the positive message. We appreciate the support | from people who understand the problem that we're trying to | solve with Secoda. We haven't had someone request Google Data | Studio as an integration, but if you were interested in | discussing what that would look like please reach out to | andrew@secoda.co. It looks like there's an API for accessing | assets in Google Data Studio, so it's definitely possible. | | Our most requested feature is discussion threads attached to | each data resource (table, dashboard, etc) to build context | around a resource. So that will be coming in the near future, | and we are happy to hear you also think it would be super | helpful! | jeffbarg wrote: | Such an important problem - I really hope you become the new | standard for companies' data. The number of times I've seen | complex, undocumented queries... | andrewmcewen wrote: | Thanks, we hope so too! At Secoda, we really want to make | data less intimidating for anyone in the organization to | explore and use. When the whole company can use data to help | inform their decisions it really does make a big difference. | troelsSteegin wrote: | Long term, do you see yourselves in the MDM space [0]? | Informally, I think of MDM as "enterprise into analytics", and | my first impression of Secoda is "analytics out to enterprise". | Schemas and data dictionaries seem central to both. An MDM | solution like Tamr looks a lot heavier weight than I think the | experience you target. | | [0] https://www.gartner.com/en/information- | technology/glossary/m... | andrewmcewen wrote: | You've hit the nail on the head here. Long term we want to | bridge the gap between the data team and rest of the | organization through a central repository of data knowledge. | Using MDM's terms the data team = IT, the rest of the | organization = business, and repository of data knowledge = | master data. So it's almost a one-to-one comparison, and | we've never heard of MDM so this is great! We are also trying | to make the experience lightweight and user friendly so that | everyone is interested in exploring their company's data. | dataminded wrote: | Take my money! | | Now to assign someone to give it a whirl and hope it works. | Etai wrote: | Thanks so much! | | We're happy to help you or whoever would set it up and show | you how other teams have been using the tool. Feel free to | shot me an email at etai@secoda.co if you'd like any help | along the way | dataminded wrote: | Will do. Just saw that API access is gated to enterprise | accounts so we may need your help. | andrewmcewen wrote: | We have pre-built integrations with many popular data | tools (Snowflake, dbt, Tableau, etc.) that can be setup | in less than 5 minutes. If those don't fit your needs | then we can definitely setup some time to discuss the | API. | stadium wrote: | How does the tagging feature work? Is it at the table and | column level? | andrewmcewen wrote: | You can add tags to any data resource in Secoda (table, | column, dashboard, dictionary term, etc). When you tag | resources, you can search for them by tag. Our customers have | found it very useful for keeping everything organized. | achllies wrote: | This looks really interesting. How does it differ from | something like Amundsen : https://github.com/amundsen- | io/amundsen | andrewmcewen wrote: | The catalog portion of the Secoda product is similar to | Amundsen, but we also have a Data Dictionary for defining | metrics, Analysis Documents for queries and charts, and | Requests for handling data questions. We take these different | pieces of functionality and make everything interconnected, | so that it's one unified repository for your data knowledge. | | Additionally, we try and make Secoda easy to use for both | technical and non-technical users, whereas a tool like | Amundsen is more focused on the technical user. | debarshri wrote: | How does it compare to traditional reporting tools. Lot of | modern day BI tools like looker for instance, do have features | like this. Where do you position yours company as compared to | traditional tools? | andrewmcewen wrote: | The main way that Secoda differs from a traditional reporting | tool is that we offer a more complete view into the data | knowledge/context of an organization. A traditional reporting | tool like Looker does great for reports, but it misses | context about how certain models are created, where data is | coming from downstream, and more general knowledge that is | stored inside of a wiki. Secoda takes all of the context | across a data stack and puts it in one central place. So we | actually see ourselves as complementary to these reporting | tools as we are a layer on top of them. | debarshri wrote: | This is my very naive opinion, having context of the data | or report, I would perceive it as nice to have. | | I would love to see some case studies or customers who | attest that this actually created primary value which is | kind of missing. Just an opinion. | imharkunwar wrote: | Hi HN--we're Harkunwar, Vipanchi, Chaithanya and Mehul from | Oneistox (https://oneistox.in/). Oneistox offers online cohort- | based courses for designers, architects and engineers to advance | their professional growth. | | Online learning by watching pre-recorded videos does not work for | design and architecture. Learning design is an iterative process | that happens through communication over drawings, sketches, | screen visuals and physical prototypes. It also depends greatly | on being exposed to how your peers are addressing the same | problem and understanding approaches from the experienced. No LMS | (Learning Management system) in the world caters to this way of | communicating while learning. There is also very little quality | curated content online on design, architecture and construction | subjects, and no space which upskills you in these fields | sufficiently for career growth. Meanwhile, demand for designers | has been growing at 21% annually over the last 5 years but only | 1/5th of this demand has been met. | | We felt the skill gap when we were in grad school. What we were | being taught was last revised 35 years ago. 80% was also by the | faculty that was non-practicing in architecture--hadn't built | anything in their life. Institutes were doing nothing to address | this in India. We researched deeper by talking to professionals | abroad, and found that this problem came out to be global, | especially in developing and under-developed nations. | | We've built a new, cohort-based, project-based LMS specifically | to learn design subjects for feedback over drawings, sketches, | screen visuals and physical prototypes. Our learners work in | groups of 2-6 on live projects and create concept designs to | executable drawings from scratch. Project-based learning and | peer-to-peer interaction in cohorts increases completion rates by | 12x! So far we've had over 2000 learners from 27 countries | upgrading their skills in subjects like Building Information | Design, UI/UX, Sustainable design, Computational design, and | others. We connect course graduates to industry professionals for | hiring. We look forward to your feedback! | aronowb14 wrote: | This is awesome! | | Probably wouldn't sign up for a course at the moment, as I am | focusing on honing BE and FE software engineering skills at the | moment, but definitely will bookmark just in case the stars | align. (meaing when I have time and see a live course that I | like. As a side note, it would be a cool feature to see some | upcoming courses on your site too). | | Best of luck on this though! Really want to see something like | this succeed. | imharkunwar wrote: | Thanks! :D We are launching 6 new courses in the coming | quarter. 2 of them are around digital product design and | UI/UX that you might be interested. We believe and see trends | where future is going to be about every individual having | some learning about design principles in their subjects. | fezzez wrote: | How do you pronounce your name? | natemwilson wrote: | Based on their logo it looks like: "one is to x" | imharkunwar wrote: | On point - Its /wan-iz-tu-ex/ - referring to scale like | 1:100, 1:500, 1:5 etc. In design, especially tangible | design subjects like industrial design and architecture, | everything is prototyped at some scale or proportions that | is friendly to understand the design development. | kall wrote: | If you have already considered this enough, disregard my | comment..This name really trips me up as a german reader. | If you like that it's a bit out there, that's cool. If | you want most people to read it like you just explained, | you might need to capitalize the individual words. | | Edit: just saw your logo. That reads well on first | glance. | neonate wrote: | Looks like https://onetox.com/ is available. Maybe they | can get big and buy it. | ChrisCarde wrote: | This is Chris and Robert from HeyCharge (https://heycharge.io/). | We're developing low-cost EV charging for indoor environments | like underground parking garages. | | Current indoor EV chargers are expensive to buy, install, and | operate, especially because they need internet connections and | cloud-based backends. They're also unreliable, because even if | the charger's internet connection works, the user might not have | one on their mobile device while underground. | | Our chargers don't require an internet connection, they don't | require any setup other than an electrician to wire power, and | our charger and app work together, even when underground and | outside of mobile network coverage. This makes them cheaper and | more reliable. | | We exchange cryptographically-signed, single-use tokens between | the charger and our mobile app. We provide tokens proactively to | users whenever they have mobile network coverage, meaning they | have a supply to use when underground in front of their charger. | The charger doesn't need to connect to the internet, only to the | user's phone. It provides a charging session in return for a | token. After charging, a token is sent in the reverse direction, | where it's eventually sent to the back end. We only provide a | replacement token to the user in return for them bringing a | complete charge session report. The user's app and device is an | untrusted intermediary in this design, making the system | resistant to abuse. | | I (Chris) got my career start at UC Davis working on EVs in a | graduate research group under the inventor of the modern plug-in | hybrid, Dr. Andy Frank, followed by experience at Google, | Mercedes-Benz R&D, and E.ON Energy. I finally brought my first | plug-in car home to a Munich city-center apartment in late 2017 | and realized just how difficult and expensive installing EV | chargers in these buildings was. We started HeyCharge to bring EV | charging to users like me, living in apartment buildings. We are | deploying hardware to our first pilot sites now. Looking forward | to your thoughts, questions, and comments! | sahaskatta wrote: | Hi Chris and Robert. I'm the cofounder of Smartcar.com. We're | an API for EVs. We're backed by a16z and NEA. (I also went to | UC Davis too!) | | I'm excited about what you folks are doing and would love to | connect. We've been helping many companies in this space better | integrate with electric cars. | | Can you shoot me an email? sahas@smartcar.com | ChrisCarde wrote: | Will certainly drop you a line! Thanks for reaching out! | michaelbuckbee wrote: | The idea of using tokens is very clever and I can see how that | could really reduce the complexity of getting a charger | implemented. I'm curious about the overall business model here, | do the sites hosting the chargers make money from this or is it | more like an amenity? | ChrisCarde wrote: | Thanks! :) We're really excited about how our token system | results in a nearly "plug and play" charger -- just add | power! | | We have two models: | | In a few markets, we operate a "full service" model where | we're invited in by a building owner to install | infrastructure at our cost, and charge a subscription fee to | users to access it in addition to charging for energy | consumed. Building owners love this because it's a natural | way to transfer costs for the infrastructure to tenants, and | -- as "full service" implies -- it takes all the | administrative overhead of managing the infrastructure, | billing tenants for power, etc. off their plate. | | We also offer our technology as a platform for other | companies to use as a part of their product or service. With | a combination of our SDK and API, they can enable their own | app to access HeyCharge devices. This means we can offer the | low cost of hardware, low cost and high scalability of setup, | and low operating costs to their product/service. We're | piloting this with several energy utilities, mobility | operators, and a few more that I can't talk about yet. In | this case, we operate on a hardware sales + SaaS model. | saraQOA wrote: | I love the idea! Cannot wait to have one here, as the the few | charging stations are in the center of the small village where | I live, so always have to park there, and pick up the charged | car later... | ChrisCarde wrote: | Exactly the problem we want to solve! | danvoell wrote: | Great idea. Good Luck! | slownews45 wrote: | EV charging in shared use / multi-family housing is still one | of the harder areas to solve. So great to see more options | coming - I wish you the best of luck. | | One side is also regulatory. At least where I was because the | building feed was not up to code, and to get charging in would | hit meters, the upgrade costs were too high. Hopefully | solutions can show up there as well. Love not having to have | network connectivity just local. | [deleted] | ChrisCarde wrote: | We aren't able to fix every wiring or capacity issue in every | building, but we have a neat combination of low-power | hardware options and load management. The net effect is that | often our infrastructure will work where other options | struggle. And thank you for the kind wordsa | rdifazio wrote: | Hey everyone! We're Juliana and Robert, co-founders of Parallel | Bio. We're improving drug discovery by replacing animal models, | in the hope of making cures for humans, not mice. | | The biggest reason why 92% of new drugs fail is that drugs are | currently discovered in mice, which are not realistic models of | human disease but are used due to the challenges of working in | humans. We've created a human 'immune system in a dish' to | discover drugs more likely to work in patients. | | Robert has a PhD in immunology and is intimately familiar with | the ways in which people are failing to recognize the importance | of the immune system in diseases and the failures of trying to | model it adequately. Juliana has a MSc in bioengineering and for | the last 5 years has been working on developing mini-organ models | in an effort to more accurately model human disease. | | Both of us have always recognized a gap in the pharmaceutical | industry that everyone seems to acknowledge exists, but few | people are working to fill, which is using humans and human | systems to treat disease. Since it is not always possible to test | drugs directly in patients, there is a critical need for human | systems to test drugs on that will predict downstream success in | the patient. | | Our immune organoid is a 3D system that has all of the features | of a human secondary lymphoid organ. It contains all of the cells | (B cells, T cells, NK cells, etc), structures (germinal centers, | LZ/DZ, etc), and function (somatic hypermutation, antibody and | cellular response, etc) that you would expect to see in a | secondary lymphoid organ. It matches the genetic background of | the patient from which it's derived, meaning it also models | diseases that patients have. And because it exhibits the same | functions as a human immune system, you can test drugs and | vaccines as if you were testing them in actual patients from the | start. It's also easier to work with than mice. | | People are currently using our platform as a new way to produce | antibody therapies, to test vaccine candidates, and to test new | treatments for diseases like multiple sclerosis. | gtirloni wrote: | Why is your website empty? | rdifazio wrote: | We're in the process of launching and are working on coming | out of stealth as fast as we can. It shouldn't be empty in | the near future! | ramraj07 wrote: | Exciting to hear this! Do you have any references to the type | of work (if your own isn't published) that closely resembles | the organoid models you use? | | How finicky are these organoids to maintain? It used to be true | that organoids are harder to maintain than super large mouse | colonies by a long shot! | | What validation are you doing on your immune organoid to | confirm they work correctly for the assay you're trying to do? | | How do you emulate the various ailments in these organoids? You | mentioned MS, are you able to emulate MS like conditions (or | even EAE) in these systems? | rdifazio wrote: | There's been a lot of research around organoids but our human | platform is unique. Here are two reviews discussing organoids | that have been so far for the immune system, though these | have almost all been done in mice | (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31853049/; | https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32112908/). | | The organoids are incredibly finicky until you figure out a | culture system they like. Then it is actually very easy to | maintain them. This allows us defensibility as it's hard for | others to figure out but easier for us now that we have. | | We've used the organoid to test 12 immunomodulators and | confirmed they matched human clinical data. We also | vaccinated the organoids against 8 infectious diseases and | they produced a full immune response with class switching, | germinal center formation, somatic hypermutation, etc. We're | also in the process of using more historical controls to show | that immune reactions that were missed in mice and other | animals are captured in our system (e.g. there are highly | inflammatory drugs that were safe in mice but deadly in | people once they got to clinical trials). | | By biobanking on diverse patient backgrounds, diseases are | emulated in these organoids naturally. Immune disease is | typically a function of dysfunctional cells that exist in a | patient. By capturing an immune niche that has those cells, | we have the disease-causing cells. We can confirm they | emulate a disease by demonstrating a phenotype on a tissue of | interest (e.g. we can make an MS immune organoid from a | patient with MS and then show that the immune cells from the | organoid demyelinate neurons). This should be the same for | any immune disease as we continue to generate proof of | concept. | dbieber wrote: | Heads up I went to email you a congratulatory email at | hello@parallel.bio but my email was rejected. Might want to | double check your google groups settings. | whymauri wrote: | Very cool and promising. Is there any literature on this | "immune system in a dish", or is it ,understandably, | proprietary? | | Three main Q: | | * How's reception been with med chemists? | | * How do you expect cost to compare with some of the individual | existing immunological wet lab screens? No individual numbers, | just comparative would be interesting to know. | | * How granular is data collection for this kinda all-in-one | system, and is throughput high enough to collect data and build | predictive models alongside it? | | I used to work in the earlier stages of drug discovery and | advances in these assays are fascinating. Really exciting work, | guys! | rdifazio wrote: | There are some reviews on immune organoids that I posted | below. This is the first human one though able to | recapitulate these features at a commercial scale. | | _We haven 't gotten any feedback from med chemists yet! _The | cost is comparable to other in vitro systems and is cheaper | than using animals. *The data collection can be very | granular. You can use single cell techniques like flow and | RNA-seq to generate high resolution data. You can also use | high resolution imaging techniques like CODEX. Moving into | high throughput and building predictive models is exactly | where we want to go. Currently, we can generate 7500 | organoids from a single donor and screen them in the | thousands. We're working on building a ML pipeline along with | automation so that we can screen in the hundreds of thousands | if not more. Key to this though is that we have designed a | platform that is amenable to this kind of automation and | scale. | whymauri wrote: | Oh wow, your upcoming plans sound great. Keep up the good | work guys! | | And I highly recommend reaching out to a med chemist for | some input. There's a lot of veteran retirees specializing | in spaces adjacent to this who are open to consulting here | and there. They're generally quite kind. | rdifazio wrote: | Thank you! If you have a good recommendation, we'd love | an introduction. Please let me know at robert at | parallel.bio. | jacquesm wrote: | On behalf of all the mice, thank you very much for doing this. | I'm all for modern medicine but the number of mice, primates | and other mammals that we kill in the name of science every | year does not sit right with me. | ramraj07 wrote: | I've always felt that if there was _any_ morally acceptable | reason to harm and kill animals it is for the sake of | (reasonable) medical research. In principle the ethics board | is there to make sure this is true but in practice they | rarely do anything about it. Perhaps the real way to solve | that problem is hold the IrBs to a higher standard and make | them do their job? | jacquesm wrote: | I always try to reverse a situation to see if it makes | sense, and then I ask myself: what would we think if aliens | came to earth to experiment on us with untested medicine, | kill us afterwards and only when it is perfectly safe on us | they would apply it to themselves. I believe a large | fraction of humanity would say that that is unethical and | they'd have all kinds of cognitive dissonance to deal with | (and associated reasons why this is different) to explain | why what we do is ok. | | I personally don't think it is ok, but it apparently is a | necessity, at the same time if this can be stopped then | that would be great. | rdifazio wrote: | We feel exactly the same way. Not only is it unacceptable | that over 110 million animals a year are sacrificed for | research, but these models do a terrible job of | translating to humans and in most cases cannot even model | the disease of interest but are used regardless. I used | to work in tuberculosis where mice are predominantly used | even though they do not get the disease and the disease | they do get has the exact opposite pathology as a human. | jacquesm wrote: | If it's ok with you I will point some investors in your | direction that are doing deals in this space. | rdifazio wrote: | We agree that this would be an important step. That being | said, there is a paucity of models that would make suitable | replacements to animal models. People are working on this | issue, but many more people need to be working on | developing better in vitro systems. Even with our platform, | animal models still have to be used for certain assays | (e.g. ADME) but we hope that one day this will not be the | case. | mldonahue wrote: | We are Matt and Danny, the founders of Kodex | (https://www.kodex.us). Kodex makes it easy for companies to | process and respond to subpoenas from governments around the | world. | | Agencies, like the FBI, subpoena user data from thousands of | companies around the world, and companies largely rely on email, | fax, and spreadsheets to manage them. When I (Matt) was in the | FBI, I would frequently see companies struggle to comply with | legal orders, because they lacked the internal resources or | expertise to automate the process of working with government | agencies. Even multi-billion dollar companies had this problem. | At scale, it is enormously burdensome. | | Somewhat surprisingly, companies have all independently learned | to comply with these requests in almost the exact same way. | Regular ticketing systems don't work for this, so companies have | adopted a web of Zendesk tickets, spreadsheets, and emails just | to manage the intake of requests. To respond to requests, they | typically send unsecured emails. The fact that this inefficient | and insecure setup is so common suggests that these companies' | needs can be met with one product, rather than custom solutions | for each company. | | Kodex automates the entire process of parsing, analyzing, and | responding to subpoenas by providing companies with their own | online Government Request Portal. It is similar to the Law | Enforcement Portal that Facebook made for themselves, but it is a | resource for every other company to use. We've got a demo video | up at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw-hd9ZyQmk. | | I think most people who haven't lived this problem assume it is | only an issue for big tech, when in reality big tech are the only | ones who can afford to build their own internal tools to | alleviate their pain. If any of you have felt this pain, we'd | love to speak with you! And your comments and questions are | welcome. | sergiotapia wrote: | keeping this company in my library of saas's to use. | mldonahue wrote: | Great way of looking at it - good to have on deck even if you | haven't yet gotten a data request, because you never know | when the "flood gates" might open and bog your company down. | anaskar wrote: | love this! needed this at the last company I worked out. Was | always surprised how manual and generally not secure the whole | process seemed to me. | mldonahue wrote: | Thanks! So surprising how hard it is for companies to handle | these requests. Love to learn more about your experience with | it! | ycorvar wrote: | Hi there! We are Orestis and Urs from Zeit Medical | (https://www.zeitmedical.com). We enable fast stroke detection at | home. | | 90% of strokes go untreated due to stroke recognition delays. | Many patients live in fear that a stroke might happen and go | unnoticed for hours, particularly if they are asleep when it | starts. Stroke is currently impossible to detect based on | symptoms. Unlike a heart attack, there is no distinct pain. There | is a compelling need for a monitoring/alert system that will | enable fast access to treatment. | | Orestis has a PhD in Biotechnology and Bioengineering and has | spent a decade developing wearable health-monitoring | technologies. Urs is a pediatric critical care physician. Both | founders have done research at Stanford. We've also both | experienced the never-ending fear of another stroke in our | families. We decided to do something about this problem--only 10% | receiving treatment is just not cutting it! | | We have a stroke detection algorithm which has been clinically | proven in operating rooms. We're pairing it with commercially | available brainwave sensors to create a smart headband that | enables immediate stroke detection at home. The sensor pairs with | our app and if a stroke is detected it alerts caregivers abs 911. | This is different from other technologies that aim to improve | patient transportation (once the patient is in the ambulance) or | door to needle time (once the patient is in the hospital). The | longest delays occur prior to calling 911, so this is the | critical phase for making a difference. | | The headband pairs with an app to analyze the brain's electrical | activity in real time with our stroke-detection algorithms. Brain | activity metrics are already used in the clinical environment, | but so far this know-how has remained siloed within the hospital. | Our headband runs on AI that emulates the ability of expert | neurophysiologists in digesting brain activity information to | infer whether a cerebral injury is taking place. | | We have recently kicked off a 15 person human factors study to | assess overall system adoption and compliance. We also offer a | sign up to get it first once our technology is cleared by the | FDA. We look forward to your questions and comments! | gtirloni wrote: | I know nothing about strokes and who's at risk. Perhaps the | website could be improved in that regard because, after reading | it, I have no idea if I should buy it for myself or family. | ycorvar wrote: | Thank you for pointing this out. We are working on a "educate | yourself about stroke" page that we will add in our website. | | In the meantime: There are some great resources at | | 1) cdc : https://www.cdc.gov/stroke/facts.htm 2) aha | :https://www.stroke.org/ | dr_ wrote: | Congrats on your launch. Question, if the device is suggesting | the user may be developing a stroke - what do they do? Do they | go to the ER and show the docs that there's abnormal electrical | activity so imaging of the brain must be done? Without physical | symptoms, I'm not sure most ERs would be prepared to deal with | this...or would they? Or is it assumed symptoms would develop | by the time the patient arrives to the ER? | [deleted] | ycorvar wrote: | 1) Our algos are designed to detect brain activity patterns | that are associated with the onset of stroke. Detection of | these patterns will send an alert to the individual, their | caregivers, and 911 (can opt out). | | 2) The patient will present to the ED, via medical transport | or in special circumstances private transport. We will | perform informative sessions with the EDs that lie within our | initial rollout area. The EDs will know what to expect and | will perform imaging on patients arriving with our alert. | Going forward, the individual will also have information on | their app they will be able to show the physician, to inform | them with data about our tech. | | 3) Most commonly symptoms develop within minutes, after the | neurons are no longer receiving oxygen. In an ideal scenario | treatment could be provided in the patient's home right after | the alert, but before this can happen the tech will need to | have gone through additional confirmation. We are currently | relying on confirmation of the stroke in the ED with the | current gold standard: CT perfusion or MRI. | dhr wrote: | Very interesting! | | Is there some data on the 'optimal' time from when a stroke | starts where intervention would prevent serious impairment? | i.e. if you detect a stroke, how many minutes/hours do you have | before irreversible damage is caused? | | Relatedly, what measures are done when a stroke is detected to | minimize damage/impairment? | | Also, what's your false positive rate? | | Wish you all the best of luck! I've had family members who've | had strokes and early detection might have helped them a ton. | ycorvar wrote: | Thank you for the insightful comments and questions! | | 1) There is a ton of interesting research on the topic of | what happens from the onset of the stroke until permanent | lesion formation. | | In brief, there is usually a stroke "core" where the damage | starts within seconds to minutes. | | However there is a big volume surrounding the core, usually | referred to as "penumbra" that is of substantial size and | remains "live" longer due to access to collateral blood flow. | This practically means that the small arteries which run in | parallel to the main one that was blocked (causing the | stroke) can sustain the surrounding tissue for a longer | period of time than the core. However this blood flow is not | enough to sustain those tissues in perpetuity and as a result | the penumbra will also "die" if no treatment is provided | promptly to re-establish flow in the "main" artery. | | So there is a real race to save the penumbra!! | (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penumbra_(medicine)) | | Summarizing the above -> Time=Brain. | | The most important point to keep in mind is that for | treatment to be provided there must be something "left" to | save upon arrival at the hospital. This is usually not the | case when people get strokes during sleep or when they are | alone (it's hard to detect so there is a ton of delays | pre-911) | | 2) The management of a stroke depends on the stroke type, | location, severity, symptoms. For ischemic strokes (85% of | all strokes) the strategy is to bring the patient as quickly | to the hospital, complete imaging diagnosis and re-establish | blood flow in the affected vessel (via thrombolysis or | thrombectomy) | | These options are really well explained here: | https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/stroke/treatment/ | | 3) We are optimizing our tools for zero false positives. | Final product requirements will be set in communication with | the FDA. | | 4) If you think that you family members might be interested | in our technology, ping them to check out our website. | jranieri wrote: | Best of luck to Orestis & co, they have been investigating this | domain for many years and they are in a great position to find | the product-market fit. | ycorvar wrote: | Thank you! | Mizza wrote: | Would love it if you could detect hemorrhagic vs ischemic so | people at risk could keep tPA at home! | jitl wrote: | How do outcomes for stroke patients vary based on treatment? | ycorvar wrote: | Time to treatment is the most important factor in defining | stroke treatment outcomes. Stroke outcomes are quantified at | 90d post event with a metric called Modified Rankin Scale. | The treatment strategy is defined based on the type, | location, and severity. The two options we have for ischemic | strokes (i.e.85% of all strokes) are TPA (clotbusting | medication) and thrombectomy (catheter based mechanical | removal of the clot). Each of the them has its advantages and | disadvantages but the common denominator is that the earlier | the patient arrives in the hospital, the more efficacious | they are. | jitl wrote: | I think you should further synthesize and emphasize these | facts in your marketing - otherwise, the impact and | importance of your work isn't apparent to laypeople. | ycorvar wrote: | Thank you for this insight. Communicating accurately the | value is a very important aspect in what we are building. | agustif wrote: | Could this be used outside of the US? Like in Mexico | | Would it be useful for someone who had small lacunar strokes | which provoked parkinson? | | Thanks, awesome company | ycorvar wrote: | Thank you for your comments! | | 1) Currently focusing on clearing the FDA in the US. One of | our clinical advisors is very passionate about helping bring | this also to Mexico. Please sign up in our waitlist and we | will make sure to keep you posted. | | 2) You are raising a very good point about lacunar strokes. | In general these are deeper in the brain structures and not | easily picked by cortical-level brain activity monitoring. | However we feel confident that once our product is regulatory | cleared and out there collecting data, we will be able to | pick the finer effects caused by such strokes. | Rastonbury wrote: | Is there anyway to put this technology on my wrist on into a | t-shirt, or even implant? I like the idea I have higher risk | factors for stroke, but I'm not too keen on wearing a headband | nightly. | ycorvar wrote: | Thank you for the comment! | | We have a vision to make future versions of our technology | that will be even more inconspicuous. We also have IP on | implantable versions of this. For people that live with | stroke risk, our current form factor is the first step | towards providing some peace of mind :) | samename wrote: | Looks amazing! | | Your website also mentions seizures. Are you trying to get FDA | clearance for both? | | Also, why did you choose the subscription route? | WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: | Super neat... | | - How common are strokes generally? | | Seems like a lot to wear this all the time -- but also I'm not | familiar with the risk factor. | | - How much quicker is this at detecting a stroke versus someone | simply observing it happening with a naked eye? | | Like how much time does this save over simply seeing physical | symptoms with your naked eye or feeling the symptoms for | yourself? 1 second, 1 hour, 5 hours, days? | ycorvar wrote: | Hi WORMS_EAT_WORMS | | Great questions! | | 1) For the US-> There are approximately 1 million strokes | every year. Stroke is the #1 cause of disability | | 2) Good point. We are starting with a system that can be work | at night time + whenever the users feel most vulnerable. | There are many patients who who through periods of increased | risk (i.e. after a 1st stroke, after a transient ischemic | attack). | | 3)Stroke recognition is one of the biggest pain points in | bringing stroke victims to treatment. Strokes that happen | during sleep (commonly referred to also as wake up strokes) | are practically impossible to detect based on symptoms. There | is not pain associated with it (like in a heart attack). | | 4) We have heard crazy stories from patients and caregivers | about how different their outcome would have been had they | been alerted a couple of hours earlier. Our vision is to help | everyone go to the hospital in under 1h. Our first target is | to enable everyone to go to the hospital within 4h which is | currently the time window for tpa d (clot busting | medication). What's the current status? -> only 4% nationwide | get tpa because they arrive too late. | | If you know when the stroke started and its more than 5h past | that -> no tpa. | | If you don't know when the stroke started -> no tpa. | lharries wrote: | This looks fantastic! I'd love to know what are the signals and | models you're using to detect strokes? (any papers you could | link to would be awesome) And what's the accuracy like? | | Also, are you thinking you'll try and sell into hospitals or | purely D2C? | ycorvar wrote: | Thank you for the comment !! | | We cannot share our models but we are using brain wave | analysis to detect stroke. Our algorithm is currently tuned | for maximal specificity and might be tuned differently for | inpatient and outpatient use. We are in conversation with | several EEG vendors for inpatient use of our algorithms. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-08-12 23:00 UTC)