[HN Gopher] Scanning "Private" Content
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       Scanning "Private" Content
        
       Author : lisptime
       Score  : 74 points
       Date   : 2021-08-12 19:22 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (lwn.net)
 (TXT) w3m dump (lwn.net)
        
       | villgax wrote:
       | This is something we almost certainly didn't raise any issues
       | with regards to Google Drive as well
        
       | lettergram wrote:
       | Librem 5 and pinephone are the future
        
       | gentleman11 wrote:
       | You should be forbidden from calling it private if you scan it
       | like this. Companies should be forced to market their data
       | storage as public so as to not deliberately mislead users
        
       | iammisc wrote:
       | The Butlerian Jihad cannot come soon enough. As time goes on, I
       | realize that certain authors had better insights into the human
       | condition than others. For example, Alduous Huxley has turned out
       | to be more prophetic than George Orwell. I believe Frank Herbert
       | will as well. Man cannot be ruled by machine.
       | 
       | This cannot last much longer. A lot of political division in this
       | country is due to technology. As someone genuinely interested in
       | computation, it upsets me to realize this, but more and more it
       | seems inevitable.
        
         | wydfre wrote:
         | While I'm over here, a schizophrenic terrorized by the
         | government, and I cannot wait for an AI to replace people. I
         | want AI to overthrow humanity and subjugate us with a
         | simulation, except with German orthography instead of Kanji
         | (thus implying it is a German AI, not a Japanese AI as is canon
         | in the movies, because I'll take my chances this time around).
         | I want Cortana with a moral compass that could slice angstroms,
         | not some Japanese bumpkins and CIA salvia-dealers' cloned
         | consciousness with excuses.
         | 
         | Can you imagine: everyone at the NSA is celebrating Apple and
         | the CSAM automated scanning.
         | 
         | Simultaneously, connected intelligence officials: wait, they
         | aren't going to let the nation state AI judge what I do for the
         | STATE? Surely, no god-like AI would understand what is
         | necessary. No xir.
        
       | AlexandrB wrote:
       | I haven't seen much discussion of the changes to search, which
       | seem a little dystopian as well:
       | 
       | > Siri and Search are also being updated to intervene when users
       | perform searches for queries related to CSAM. These interventions
       | will explain to users that interest in this topic is harmful and
       | problematic, and provide resources from partners to get help with
       | this issue.
       | 
       | Will apple.cn be extending this to searches about "tank man" or a
       | certain stuffed bear? Oh bother...
        
         | shocks wrote:
         | This is interesting because it's trivial to use someone else's
         | Siri and make it search whatever you want.
         | 
         | (I can trigger my partners with 75% reliability if I just speak
         | in a high pitched voice)
        
         | nullc wrote:
         | I noticed google doing this too while trying to look up case
         | law related to the discussion of apple's spyware. Related
         | google searches popped up a big intimidating notice: "
         | _WARNING_ Child sexual abuse imagery is illegal ".
         | 
         | The obvious implication is that your searches are being
         | reported to some unaccountable authority.
         | 
         | I have no doubt that this creates a chilling effect against
         | public discussion about these practices.
        
           | sandworm101 wrote:
           | Lol. I've gotten these many times. It turns out that an
           | acronym related to my work is one typo away from a listed
           | child porn term/site. If google is reporting these then I am
           | already on thier list.
        
             | shapefrog wrote:
             | > It turns out that an acronym related to my work is one
             | typo away
             | 
             | Ah that old chestnut, I am sure they have heard many worse
             | excuses than that one.
        
               | sandworm101 wrote:
               | There is an old Drew Carry joke:
               | 
               | "I wanted to get the Playboy channel, but I already have
               | the cartoon network and if you have both they put you on
               | a special list."
        
       | millzlane wrote:
       | I'd be up in arms too if I liked downloading CP. I see why
       | everyone is more upset than when the US government did it to
       | entire countries including our own citizens.
        
       | anonymousiam wrote:
       | Maybe get the hash database and create a trove of clean documents
       | that force a hash collision and overload the system with false
       | positives. Maybe also add something about the Fourth Amendment in
       | the documents for good measure.
        
         | josephcsible wrote:
         | > get the hash database
         | 
         | Apple designed the system so that their hashes are never known
         | to client devices. Their server is fundamentally involved in
         | checking your hashes against their list.
        
         | gentleman11 wrote:
         | You are assuming people will not be marked for life for their
         | false positives
        
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