[HN Gopher] Freeing Your Goats ___________________________________________________________________ Freeing Your Goats Author : todsacerdoti Score : 48 points Date : 2021-08-30 19:32 UTC (3 hours ago) (HTM) web link (hyperthings.garden) (TXT) w3m dump (hyperthings.garden) | ssivark wrote: | I was disappointed by how much of the previous discussion [1] | avoided what (in my reading) was the most interesting point -- | the absolute _situated_ and _interactive_ nature of development | which almost no other language /system supports. ( _Hell, it was | even in the damn title!_ ) | | It would be really nice to see a thorough discussion focusing on | that. | | ---- | | In the spirit of the author's desire to "get weird", I'm struck | by how often people's choice of programming languages (and tools, | more generally) is from a defensive stance. I understand that | when working on problems where better technology is unlikely to | lead to significant advantages (so you'd prefer to cap the | potential downsides), but I'm still surprised by the sheer | paucity of examples where people are willing to make aggressive | technology choices to get leverage on their goals, and solve | interesting & worthwhile problems. | | ---- | | [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28345617 | voidhorse wrote: | What? Were people really that negative about the first post? I | thought its combination of programming commentary and references | to Sartre and existentialism were great. | | Sure totalitarian is an extreme word, but that's kind of the | point of hyperbole...the (in this case humorous) use of a word | that's semantically too strong. | | I hope the OP doesn't give in to the negativity. That first essay | had a definite voice (the most important part of writing) and I | thought the whimsy totally worked. Maybe if you're a sensitive | Rust or Haskell fanboy the essay somehow offended you, but as a | sensitive Haskell fanboy that also loves lisp I gotta say, I | thought it was fun and entertaining and had an interesting | perspective on REPLs that's not often proclaimed. | platz wrote: | here we go again | saxonww wrote: | I was hoping to read an article about free range goats but | instead it's about programming languages. On Hacker News, of | all places. | type0 wrote: | If you have coyotes in the area, you can forget about the | free-ranging your goats. | shagie wrote: | You need to practice goatops. http://www.goatops.com | | The HN post about it | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26336880 which has some | discussion about dairy goats and similar. | tialaramex wrote: | I was wondering if it was about "Buy your girlfriend a goat | day" which I am given to understand is a thing (a note about | it is on my friend's fridge, written by his girlfriend, so it | must be true). | toast0 wrote: | Does the girlfriend already have goats? If not, your friend | really should be looking for two goats, they're very social | and a friend is important. Although, I've heard goats are | happy to make friends with other animals too, if there's a | friendly sheep or a cow or a cat or something already | there. | | This is the kind of thing I expected to be in the article! | type0 wrote: | Young goats are one of the most fun little farm animals, | build them something to jump on, they'll love it. | pjc50 wrote: | Props to the author for a graceful response, and I feel we should | apologize for giving it the usual HN kicking. Whimsy comes across | badly, and we've all had to deal with too many users of the word | "totalitarian" for trivial subjects who are deadly serious about | it. | | But .. | | > But with Common Lisp you just recompile the function while you | are looking at your avatar as it stands in the room. No need to | shut the game down first, no need to walk back to the room. | | _Ahem_ you can also do this in C#, Microsoft call it "edit and | continue". | | You can even turn it on for C++, but in that case it rarely | actually works. | | Perhaps you can do it in Unity? | fmakunbound wrote: | > Ahem you can also do this in C#, Microsoft call it "edit and | continue" | | Tried it. It's just not the same thing. | beecafe wrote: | Unity does it by default, but it breaks everything. | [deleted] ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-08-30 23:00 UTC)