[HN Gopher] Roman priest's exceptionally well-preserved remains ...
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       Roman priest's exceptionally well-preserved remains found in
       Pompeii
        
       Author : benbreen
       Score  : 95 points
       Date   : 2021-08-31 16:57 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.smithsonianmag.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.smithsonianmag.com)
        
       | Grakel wrote:
       | Definitely don't take any close up pictures, I'm here for the
       | words!
        
       | op00to wrote:
       | I wonder what the priest would think if he knew his bones were
       | discovered so far into the future...
        
         | raducu wrote:
         | Thinking about death, as in complete anihilation is something
         | both awe inspiring and frightening to all, isn't it?
         | 
         | I recently visited a salt mine/museum; as soon as I entered the
         | enormous chamber with the low-rumbling noises, beautiful
         | geological patterns on the wall, I was struck by the feeling
         | that this is an inescapable tomb, our fate is sealed, an
         | eternity passed before us and an eternity will pass after us,
         | billuons upon billions of years and we won't get to experience
         | them, we are both so dumb and so lucky not to think about it
         | every day.
        
           | aksss wrote:
           | What was the salt mine/museum, out of curiosity? Sounds like
           | an old IT job I used to have. :D But for reals, it sounds
           | like an incredible experience.
        
         | p1mrx wrote:
         | I would be more interested in the method by which he obtained
         | that information.
        
           | aksss wrote:
           | 5th level necromancy. A cleric or paladin can cast Raise
           | Dead, takes an hour, consumes a diamond worth 500gp. I mean,
           | if we can transport people to other celestial bodies and
           | transform the light of the sun into the power of 100 horses,
           | should be kinda easy in the scheme of things, no?
        
           | ithkuil wrote:
           | By inspection of animal entrails I suppose.
        
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       | olegious wrote:
       | The original announcement from the Archaeological Park of Pompeii
       | has more and larger pics as well as a video:
       | http://pompeiisites.org/en/comunicati/the-tomb-of-marcus-ven...
        
       | tryagainacct wrote:
       | > The fact that Secundio was buried rather than cremated
       | contradicts the long-held idea that Roman funeral rites were
       | followed strictly for fear of incurring the wrath of the gods.
       | 
       | > Mount Vesuvius' pyroclastic flows and poisonous fumes killed
       | around 2,000 people in Pompeii and the neighboring city of
       | Herculaneum.
        
         | ahmedfromtunis wrote:
         | The joke is on you. Correlation does not imply causation.
         | 
         | On a more serious note, I wonder how people reacted to his
         | decision to forgo cremation at the time, especially since he is
         | a priest himself; and if there were any discussions, even
         | privately among his relatives, on how he can get away with it
         | because of his status (if this was really the case).
         | 
         | It's for moment like these, not the ones immortalized by
         | historians, that I wish there is/was (does it even matter what
         | tense to use) a time machine.
        
         | tus89 wrote:
         | I don't think strict beliefs and Rome were really a thing until
         | a certain Eastern religion took over.
        
           | aksss wrote:
           | Christianity wasn't granted legal protection until ~300AD.
           | Prior to that, you could say that it was a strict belief that
           | Christianity was verboten and its members subject to
           | persecution (lions, crosses, etc). It would be another half-
           | century before the empire started to codify what
           | "Christianity" was in a "strict" sense (Nicaean creed,
           | right?).
           | 
           | The time period of Secundio's tomb is around AD 60 or so. As
           | the article at pompeiisites.org says, "During the Roman
           | period at Pompeii, funeral rites usually involved cremation,
           | while only small children were buried." This burial of a 60
           | year old man stands out for a few reasons, but one of which
           | is that it even exists at all given that it's contrary to
           | custom of the pre-Christian age.
        
       | dukeofdoom wrote:
       | Every place I visited that had a volcano, has been an amazing
       | place filled with natural beauty. Hawaii and Costa Rica, and
       | Washington. I can see why people want to live close to them. The
       | meadows of Mount Rainier, The hot springs of Arenal Volcano, and
       | Haleakala in Maui really stand out in my mind to this day.
        
       | thaumasiotes wrote:
       | > If he chose this manner of burial himself, that "could mean ...
       | there was a certain ideological freedom [in Pompeii]," Llorenc
       | Alapont, an archaeologist at Universidad Europea de Valencia who
       | participated in the excavation, tells ANSA, per Google Translate.
       | 
       | Maybe if you want to report on something someone said in another
       | language, have your translation checked by someone who can
       | understand that language.
        
         | asveikau wrote:
         | Interesting detail. Assuming the original was Catalan or
         | Castilian or some other Latin language, I think a machine
         | translation of a short phrase about "ideological freedom" is
         | likely to be accurate. Most of Europe uses the same handful of
         | Greek and Latin roots to express that. (In English we have
         | "freedom" from a Germanic root, but you get the idea.)
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Please don't pick the most irritating detail in an article and
         | then copy it into the thread to complain about it. This leads
         | to significantly lower-quality discussion, especially when the
         | detail is off topic.
         | 
         | HN threads are sensitive to initial conditions, so this is
         | particularly important when there aren't many comments yet.
         | 
         | One thing we're working on learning as a community is how to
         | respond to the interesting parts of an article or situation and
         | leave superficial provocations alone. Not easy, but important
         | for curious conversation.
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
       | Koshkin wrote:
       | He was born when Christ was just 10 to 15 years old. Not sure
       | why, but this somehow fascinates me.
        
       | adolph wrote:
       | Folks interested in this might be interested in the Told in Stone
       | YouTube Channel:
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/c/toldinstone
        
       | JohnGB wrote:
       | This just shows that Zeus is the one true god! /s
        
       | pandemic_region wrote:
       | It's amazing how those few strings of hair turned the skeleton
       | bones back into a real person for me. Thanks, nice post !
        
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