[HN Gopher] Vintage Computer Festival Midwest 16
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       Vintage Computer Festival Midwest 16
        
       Author : erickhill
       Score  : 83 points
       Date   : 2021-09-01 03:06 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (vcfmw.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (vcfmw.org)
        
       | Silent700 wrote:
       | Good Lord, that website rules.
       | 
       | ;)
        
         | tsak wrote:
         | Note the lack of HTTPS and social media preview tags.
        
         | grp000 wrote:
         | It feels cozy. I can already hear the faint buzz of the CRT and
         | see my dim reflection on the curved glass.
        
           | unrealhoang wrote:
           | I hear the sound of my 56K dial-up modem dialing.
        
         | redisman wrote:
         | Beautiful. Some real geocities vibes
        
         | diskzero wrote:
         | We all need more blink tags in our lives.
        
         | poetaster wrote:
         | 3d rotating text banners, I've missed you so. Not to forget the
         | flying cows.
        
       | abraae wrote:
       | Fuck covid, I want to be there.
        
       | thesuitonym wrote:
       | Kind of off topic, but I always wonder who decided that Chicago,
       | Ohio, and that whole corridor count as "mid-west".
       | 
       | When I see mid-west, I think the Dakotas, Minnesota, and
       | southwards. I'm always disappointed to see that actually what
       | most people think is "mid-west" is pretty far from me. Shouldn't
       | those areas be called the mid-east?
        
         | breput wrote:
         | Iowa is peak midwest. It drops off as you move away from that
         | center. I will postulate that the American midwest is mostly
         | areas settled by Scandinavian immigrants with a little bit of
         | German, Polish, and Dutch mixed in, mostly settled in the late
         | 1800s by farmers. My own family was in this group and they were
         | in direct contact with Native Americans, who watered their
         | horses in their troughs.
         | 
         | Minnesota - definitely.
         | 
         | Wisconsin - definitely.
         | 
         | North Dakota - No. Might not actually exist.
         | 
         | South Dakota/Nebraska - mostly, but just the eastern quarter.
         | The rest is West.
         | 
         | Missouri - Maybe a little bit on the border but mostly no. Iowa
         | fought a war (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_War) to keep
         | Missouri out of the midwest.
         | 
         | Illinois - It's complicated. The northwestern corner is but no
         | further than Rockford and nowhere south.
         | 
         | Kansas - probably not. It is mostly West.
         | 
         | Indiana - No.
         | 
         | Ohio - definitely not. Go find your own classification.
         | 
         | Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
        
         | NegativeLatency wrote:
         | As someone who lives on the west coast I'm similarly struck by
         | the occasional realization that states like Nevada and Colorado
         | are considered in "the west".
         | 
         | I'm guessing it's because the terms were all defined by people
         | on the east coast some time ago.
        
           | Cyberdog wrote:
           | I grew up in Northern California, as in one county away from
           | the Oregon border, and was confused by a child when people
           | referred to the Sacramento and San Francisco areas as
           | "Northern California" since we had to drive several long
           | hours south to get there.
        
           | breput wrote:
           | There is a spectrum and it isn't just a east coast thing.
           | 
           | I think you can basically divide it out where the primary
           | crop is wheat vs. corn/soybeans, and where the crop
           | irrigation starts. As you drive from east to west, you can
           | feel exactly where this line occurs.
           | 
           | People move around a lot - and let me tell you about what
           | actual western residents like old CO front range and Montana
           | residents think about SV California people moving in. But
           | there is a bell curve-type shape as you move west of a
           | certain kind of individualism, which tails off in central CA.
           | You don't have to get much east beyond SF/Mountain View to
           | get to the "real west".
        
         | dexwiz wrote:
         | Those states where originally the Midwest territories, which at
         | the time were much more central than they are now.
        
           | boomboomsubban wrote:
           | Like half of them were originally the Northwest territory,
           | the Midwest territory was never a thing.
        
         | jazzyjackson wrote:
         | As someone from Illinois I'm always surprised Nebraska and
         | Dakotas are considered the same region! But we all share a
         | certain flatness and the central time zone. We're not the
         | mountains, we're not the east coast, we're the middle.
         | 
         | Like my sibling says, it also helps to remember that Peoria, IL
         | used to be the last settled town before you were in the western
         | frontier, St Louis a little later (that's what that arch is all
         | about).
         | 
         | The etymology dictionary has an interesting note on the matter
         | [0]:
         | 
         | " Midwestern (1889) in reference to a group of states
         | originally listed as West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee,
         | Missouri, Kansas, and Arkansas "
         | 
         | 1889 Is the same year Montana and N/S Dakota was created !
         | 
         | [0] https://www.etymonline.com/word/Midwest#etymonline_v_14805
        
       | LeoPanthera wrote:
       | I exhibited at VCF West this year, my first time. It was a lot of
       | fun. I hope that visitors had a good time, but the interactions
       | between exhibitors were almost as fun.
        
         | code_duck wrote:
         | That's my favorite part of doing conventions, especially for
         | fields in which one typically labors alone most of time.
        
       | degenerate wrote:
       | To save a few clicks, Elmhurst is a suburb of Chicago, IL.
       | 
       | Do people lug their vintage machines to the event, or is it more
       | of a software-based meetup?
        
         | Silent700 wrote:
         | Absolutely heavy on the hardware. Lots of micros, obviously,
         | but there are always a few minis (PDP-8/PDP-11/HP 1000/etc),
         | Unix workstations and odd stuff. This year there is even an IBM
         | Midrange display (System/34, /36, AS/400).
         | 
         | Appropriate vendors are welcome and loads of stuff changes
         | hands.
        
         | brian_herman wrote:
         | There are vendors that sell some stuff and there is a place
         | where people drop off unwanted vintage equipment that you can
         | take home for free.
        
         | LarryMade2 wrote:
         | I've exhibited at VCF West many times, you get part of a table
         | or more depending on your exhibit, its a good time/place to
         | show off your stuff and share your excitement of it.
         | 
         | Since it is mainly just enthusiasts, and limited to "vintage"
         | (see event exhibitor info for the definition) it is a great
         | place to reminisce and find some old hardware/software/media as
         | well.
         | 
         | Here's some pics I took from when I attended (2002-2006) Later
         | ones probably have the same vibe, and as it has grown in
         | popularity you may see more tech luminaries attend/present.
         | 
         | https://portcommodore.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=photos:start
        
       | tcbawo wrote:
       | I'm a huge fan of Dave Murray's. It's great to see that he'll be
       | there demoing the Commander X16. He has a great way of making
       | vintage technology accessible and relevant as a teaching tool.
       | I've spent some time watching his videos with my son. I think the
       | technology of that era is great for learning computing basics
       | from first principles.
        
         | mixmastamyk wrote:
         | Neat, just watched his video on how to brighten yellowed
         | plastic on old computers.
         | 
         | A great storyteller I enjoy is the professor from
         | computerphile:
         | 
         | https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUTypj9XuPp4YBaHucPvr-z...
        
       | jdkee wrote:
       | This was my first vintage computer con I attended back in the
       | pre-pandemic days. It was a wonderful experience and the people
       | were great. Looking forward to attending next month.
        
       | Silent700 wrote:
       | Here's a gallery (and video) of previous shows that may give some
       | more insight into what goes on at a VCF:
       | 
       | http://vcfmw.org/past.html
        
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       | paulkrush wrote:
       | I used to go to the computer show at DuPage County Fairgrounds to
       | check out the new computers, that are well, vintage now...
        
         | Silent700 wrote:
         | That was a decent show. Great place to find AT cases, SIMMs and
         | imported knock-off Sound Blasters in identical blue/orange
         | boxes.
        
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