[HN Gopher] OpenMoji: Open-source emojis
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OpenMoji: Open-source emojis
Author : nameequalsmain
Score : 288 points
Date : 2021-09-03 13:09 UTC (9 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (openmoji.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (openmoji.org)
| Andrew_nenakhov wrote:
| In case someone doesn't know emojipedia, here is the link:
| https://emojipedia.org/
|
| It covers all existing more or less complete emoji sets,, with
| licensing information (except for Apple Emojis. Nobody knows what
| is the license for Apple Emojis and how summer developers get
| away with using them).
| collegeburner wrote:
| No pregnant man emoji, 0/10 literally unusable
|
| On a more serious note, what are the author's plans to extend it?
| I saw that it's a project, so will it keep growing or is it
| pretty much done?
| totetsu wrote:
| I see the sports icons but where are all the sex position ones?
| pwdisswordfish0 wrote:
| Let's contribute some!
| carlinmack wrote:
| The plan is to stay up to date with Unicode emoji releases, and
| add extra ones (unicode [1] and original [2]) as they are
| designed
|
| [1] https://openmoji.org/library/#group=extras-unicode [2]
| https://openmoji.org/library/#group=extras-openmoji
| epilys wrote:
| The font files are very big (~10MB). They need some trimming
| before they are viable to use on websites.
| bkyan wrote:
| Could these be turned into an @font-face for use on websites?
| jokoon wrote:
| Sweet!
|
| I'm making an android game and UTF8 emojis are great for UI
| icons. I'm currently using the Google Noto one but it's certainly
| not usable in games.
|
| I'm waiting for Godot 4 to allow me to display android native
| emojis from the system font, but I'm not sure yet it will really
| work.
|
| I now want to try if I can use this font for my icons, as long as
| godot allows me to load a font and pick UTF8 character by their
| codepoint.
| edoceo wrote:
| Why is noto a no-go for games? License?
| AkshitGarg wrote:
| Noto uses Apache-2.0 [1] which should be fine for most stuff.
|
| [1]: https://github.com/googlefonts/noto-
| emoji/blob/main/LICENSE
| jokoon wrote:
| So does that mean I can publish a game using those icons,
| and earn money with micro transactions?
| rincewind wrote:
| The last time I evaluated these for use in my app, I found that
| the "consistent" and "minimalist" visual style makes it really
| difficult to recognise object/plant/food emoji from one another
| by shape or at a distance. Other emoji have clear shapes, but not
| enough internal detail to understand what they mean. this is
| especially problematic with a set of non-Android, non-Twitter,
| non-Apple emoji, where users haven't _learned_ the shapes yet,
| but have to go by looks. It looks like the creators of this
| project wanted "function over form", or at least "form follows
| function", but in their pursuit of Bauhaus they accidentally
| ended up with Droodles.
| ziml77 wrote:
| Even the person ones aren't great. I actually thought that the
| baby was a hunchbacked old man. And the facepalm looks like
| someone covering up one eye to read an eye chart. I seriously
| wouldn't have gotten either of those without the caption
| telling me.
| a-nikolaev wrote:
| Emojis are normally used inlined in text. So, I think, they
| should demo theirs the same size as they would be when inlined in
| text. Otherwise hard to tell tell the emoji quality. I'm also a
| bit concerned with the thick black outlines, they may look not as
| good at the small scale (may look too noisy or may overpower
| small color details).
| hbn wrote:
| At least the lines aren't as horribly thick as Microsoft's
| current emoji set. Though I think they're gonna be redoing all
| their emojis with a 3D art style soon
| layer8 wrote:
| Yes, it doesn't look like they would be suitable for low-DPI
| screens at regular text size.
| woliveirajr wrote:
| > OpenMoji is an open-source project of 50+ students and 2
| professors of the HfG Schwabisch Gmund (Design University) and
| external contributers.
|
| Congrats to everybody for taking time and giving us those emojis.
| wongarsu wrote:
| They even include a number of that aren't in Unicode (yet?), like
| this Trump emoji [1]. They are allocated in the Private Use Zone
| of Unicode, so there shouldn't be any collisions with future
| unicode additions.
|
| 1: https://openmoji.org/library/#emoji=E183
| [deleted]
| aidenn0 wrote:
| This hasn't caught up to the change in presentation of the pistol
| emoji: the version presented clearly depicts a revolver:
|
| https://openmoji.org/library/#emoji=1F52B
| nmstoker wrote:
| These are great. Certain interactions are really tough to
| represent pictographically but they did pretty well from what I
| saw.
|
| They've even had a go at the black and white versions of some
| flags! (but naturally they have a few they need to work on
| still). Flip the color switch on the link below to see it:
|
| https://openmoji.org/library/#group=extras-unicode%2Fsubdivi...
| davidjfelix wrote:
| FYI: google's are Apache licensed here:
| https://github.com/googlefonts/noto-emoji
|
| Twitter emoji (discord uses these also) are open source:
| https://twemoji.twitter.com/
|
| Both of these are very consistent and good open source emoji. I
| think in the past a lot of these projects that were not backed by
| companies eventually devolved into a paid product that was no
| longer open source, but I'm hopeful that openmoji continues down
| the FOSS path.
| pbronez wrote:
| Looks like Google's aren't super easy to use outside of Chrome
| and Android:
|
| > NotoColorEmoji uses the CBDT/CBLC color font format, which is
| supported by Android and Chrome/Chromium OS. Windows supports
| it starting with Windows 10 Anniversary Update in Chrome and
| Edge. On macOS, only Chrome supports it, while on Linux it will
| support it with some fontconfig tweaking, see issue #36.
| Currently we do not build other color font formats.
| app4soft wrote:
| JFTR, _" Symbola" font_[0] actually is not an opensource and
| just freeware for personal use, but it was _" fully free for
| any use"_[1] till February/March 2018[2]. BTW, Even in actual
| state "Symbola" is my fav font for emoji input on desktop (via
| _Gucharmap_ [2]) and mobile (via _UnicodePad_ [3]).
|
| [0] https://dn-works.com/ufas/
|
| [1]
| https://web.archive.org/web/20180129230141/http://users.teil...
|
| [2]
| https://web.archive.org/web/20180302032711/http://users.teil...
|
| [3] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gucharmap
|
| [4] https://github.com/Ryosuke839/UnicodePad
| hjek wrote:
| But does Twemoji or Noto have a _sea level rise_ emoji?[0]
|
| [0]: https://openmoji.org/library/#group=extras-
| openmoji%2Fclimat...
| notRobot wrote:
| Twemoji is amazing. I rooted my Android phone just so I could
| replace stock emoji with Twemoji.
| onkoe wrote:
| I'm really glad Discord used them. They're becoming more
| mainstream and easier to use in projects without people
| asking about the emoji
| marcodiego wrote:
| From the site: "All emojis are free to use under the CC BY-SA 4.0
| license"
|
| I'd like CC0 better for this case. If anyone is looking for a
| repository with many CC0 icons (among other licenses), I
| recommend SvgRepo: https://www.svgrepo.com/
| carlinmack wrote:
| The creator of the project suggests that the license is for
| edits of the emojis, rather than the projects which use the
| emoji. [1] As someone involved with the project, I'm not sure
| how this should be communicated so that this is clear
|
| [1] https://github.com/hfg-gmuend/openmoji/issues/155
| chronogram wrote:
| The license states that you have to give attribution
| according to CC4 and that any edits will carry the same
| license, the comment in your issue page suggests open
| sourcing the files you use to make the edits so others can
| easily edit your changes as well.
|
| Personally I like the license you're using.
| kamray23 wrote:
| Yeah but the creator of the project can suggest whatever they
| want if they don't understand the license they use.
|
| Going over CC-BY-SA for those used to software licenses only:
| If I make a work which uses CC-BY-SA material I have to
| provide attribution. If I modify the emoji to suit my own
| purposes, I need to release these new emoji under CC-BY-SA,
| and attribution to the originals must be provided, they may
| not be kept proprietary.
|
| Using it in a project is redistribution, modifying it is
| adaption.
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| Hey, thanks for the SVGRepo link!
|
| There's a number of these types of sites, and I like to keep
| links to them all, for when I'm looking for inspiration or
| graphics.
| matt_s wrote:
| Unicode has emojis[0] which are freely usable for nearly every
| device as far as I understand.
|
| What is the purpose here? How much overlap?
|
| [0] https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html
| [deleted]
| dangerface wrote:
| Emojis are part of unicode but the actual image representations
| of the unicode characters are created and owned by platforms
| like microsoft or apple.
|
| You can use the platform emojies on platforms that have and
| support them but you can't freely use them as in you can't
| redistribute them so you can't host or use them on your website
| without licensing issues.
|
| Its like a font like Akurrat you can use it if the platform
| provides it but if you are providing it you need a licence.
| _tom_ wrote:
| Aren't emojis part of the fonts? I don't know, I'd just
| assumed that. So they'd be owned by the font designer?
| user-the-name wrote:
| No fonts actually include emoji to any significant extent,
| and definitely not in colour.
|
| Instead, OSes use a font fallback list where other fonts
| are substituted in for characters that are missing, and
| each OS provides one font that includes all the emoji as
| colour bitmaps.
| ygra wrote:
| There's various ways how to do those in fonts. I think
| Apple uses bitmaps. Microsoft uses several overlaid
| glyphs in different colors. And there's also a way of
| embedding SVG as glyphs in fonts.
| bmn__ wrote:
| > No fonts actually include emoji to any significant
| extent, and definitely not in colour.
|
| You're mistaken, that does not reflect reality.
|
| https://www.google.com/get/noto/help/emoji/
|
| https://github.com/googlefonts/noto-emoji
|
| I have specifically installed this font in my X/Linux
| system to get colourful emoji.
| dangerface wrote:
| Implementation might be a bit different because they are
| coloured but essentially yea. Whoever designed the icons or
| paid them too would own the licensing on them. I think most
| people think of fonts as free because they are soo
| ubiquitous but I have been caught out using licensed fonts
| on a site without the license.
| pyentropy wrote:
| Does Unicode provide an implementation/image of the spec?
|
| I think each vendor has to make the design on their own.
| mayoff wrote:
| Apple provides a copyrighted image for U+1F600 GRINNING FACE.
| Google also provides a copyrighted image for U+1F600 GRINNING
| FACE. And so on.
|
| If you want to use Apple's image for U+1F600, your use either
| has to be "fair use" or Apple has to grant you a license. For
| example, Apple's app store guidelines explicitly grant you the
| following license:
|
| > 4.5.6 Apps may use Unicode characters that render as Apple
| emoji in their app and app metadata. Apple emoji may not be
| used on other platforms or embedded directly in your app
| binary.
|
| And of course because it's Apple, enforcement is capricious:
| https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/8/16992830/apple-emoji-crack...
|
| So you might want an image for U+1F600 which you are clearly
| licensed to use. OpenMoji is one source for such an image.
| crazygringo wrote:
| Aren't those all copyrighted? E.g. for the column "Appl" (sic)
| they're all copyrighted by Apple. You don't have rights to use
| them on your website or your Android app, for example.
|
| Just because they're on the Unicode website doesn't mean
| Unicode owns them. It's just a resource to be aware of how
| emoji can appear differently in different sets.
|
| Unless you can point out a column that is specifically open
| source.
| deathanatos wrote:
| > _Unless you can point out a column that is specifically
| open source._
|
| The "Twtr" (Twitter) column, I believe, is Twitter's
| "twemoji"[1], which is CC-BY.
|
| But your general point about the link being for comparison
| purposes and not implying any particular license is also
| correct, too.
|
| [1]: https://github.com/twitter/twemoji
| dec0dedab0de wrote:
| for a while I've been thinking that it would be cool if emojis
| were directly in the font, so that they changed style to match
| the font being used.
| [deleted]
| mcdonje wrote:
| Generally, I really very much like the style. I wonder about the
| skin tones and inclusion. I only see yellow supported.
|
| There's an argument to be made that just having 1 unrealistic
| color could be more inclusive than many skin tones, but the
| characteristics of the people look white in general. Like, even
| the curly haired person. They just look like white people. I'm
| white, but this doesn't seem very inclusive.
|
| Is there a skin tone variant I'm missing?
| carlinmack wrote:
| if you click on individual emoji's you can see the skin tone
| variants for it. You can filter for only emojis with skin tone
| variants using the "All Emoji <Filter Icon>" button :)
| mcdonje wrote:
| I see it now. Thank you!
| drstewart wrote:
| What is a non skin tone related "white characteristic" exactly?
| user-the-name wrote:
| The fact that everyone's head is cut off is kind of creepy.
| EGreg wrote:
| Links plz?
| [deleted]
| carlinmack wrote:
| you can see them all a little easier at https://hfg-
| gmuend.github.io/openmoji/
| Igelau wrote:
| Thanks, the other link got hugged to death, or whatever we call
| the HN equivalent.
| warning26 wrote:
| I'm a fan of the artwork in some of the older versions of Noto
| Color Emoji, which is also open source and freely-licensed.
|
| But, it's good to have more options in the open emoji field -- if
| only Apple would freely license _their_ emoji artwork.
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