[HN Gopher] The Frustration with Productivity Culture
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       The Frustration with Productivity Culture
        
       Author : x43b
       Score  : 52 points
       Date   : 2021-09-14 20:13 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | throwaway_2009 wrote:
       | "Sick system" effect as far as I've seen is far more prevalent at
       | low-paid, low-status workplaces.
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       | The more you stand up for your time, both within a specific job
       | and via choice of employer, the less stressful your life will be.
       | 
       | In my experience, this extends to, well, everything. Put up with
       | bullshit relationships and they'll consume you. Entertain rogue
       | family members' nonsense and they'll push until you can no
       | longer.
       | 
       | You can respect yourself and be kind at the same time. Charity
       | begins at home and all that.
        
       | mikkergp wrote:
       | Maybe I'm workaholic, but do people like friction in their work?
       | I mean, we should certainly push back against anyone that thinks
       | that we should increase productivity through sheer force of will
       | (or hours, or sacrificing mind and body). But I've always found
       | the meta-work to be the most interesting part of the work.
       | Especially if it means I can spend more time in a state of
       | productive flow.
        
       | mcbishop wrote:
       | Is the article essentially arguing that work should be made
       | easier for knowledge workers -- so they aren't as stressed out? I
       | assume it'd fall on these knowledge workers to build the better
       | systems that would simplify their day-to-day work.
        
       | theonlybutlet wrote:
       | Definitely room for improving processes, think there is large
       | scope for productivity increases just in our wider work culture.
       | Too many people trying to CYA (Cover Your A*), things like email
       | acknowledgments and people requesting things when they know the
       | answer is no, but solely so they can prove they actioned
       | something or tried to go the "extra mile".
        
       | jb1991 wrote:
       | Hi, productive person here. I'm also frustrated by my own
       | productivity, tbh... some days I wish I languished more, to take
       | in the moments as they come without any influence on my part to
       | their outcome.
        
         | nefitty wrote:
         | Take some of my languishing. I have plenty to spare at the
         | moment.
        
       | jh0486 wrote:
       | It's easy to have the wrong mindset around productivity. If an
       | individual thinks that doing more always leads to better results,
       | they're going to have a bad time. I use productivity as a tool to
       | have __more__ personal time and reduce stress. I really think
       | about what I'm doing and what impact it has on my day.
       | 
       | From what I've seen, working in large corporate environments, is
       | that people make their own productivity prisons doing things that
       | no one asked for or working late hours on something no one is
       | waiting for. Individuals create the stress for themselves by
       | trying to standout or impress others.
       | 
       | If someone doesn't care about career progression, which I'm
       | assuming is most of the anti-productivity crowd, they can get
       | along just fine at almost any company doing only the minimum
       | requirements of a role, have a fair work/life balance, and live a
       | normal life.
       | 
       | If someone takes a mid six figure comp package from a major tech
       | company, they should expect to work hard going into that role.
       | Those jobs aren't for everyone. There are plenty of less
       | stressful work environments in technology that will pay someone a
       | decent salary and will be much less demanding.
        
         | uselesscynicism wrote:
         | > There are plenty of less stressful work environments in
         | technology that will pay someone a decent salary and will be
         | much less demanding.
         | 
         | There are?! Could you list some examples? I would take a pay
         | cut for fewer responsibilities if I could stay in tech and if
         | it didn't pay like thirty grand, which is what you will make in
         | support.
         | 
         | How do I transition from a high stress high pay software
         | engineer to a medium pay low stress other kind of technology
         | worker like you have described???
        
       | PragmaticPulp wrote:
       | The word "productivity" is joining the ranks of "agile",
       | "hustle", "performance improvement program", and other phrases
       | that are too triggering for honest discussion. Everyone arrives
       | to the conversation with different ideas of what the word
       | actually means, as well as a lot of accumulated baggage from
       | negative past experiences.
       | 
       | The author of this article started with good intentions to help
       | people optimize their lives to find more free, personal time. The
       | readers arrived having already made up their minds that any
       | productivity-related writings were bad. At that point, there's
       | not much that can be done other than to switch to a different
       | word or phrase with fewer connotations.
       | 
       | I think what most people really want is reduced cognitive
       | overhead. Most productivity writing starts with good intentions,
       | but most productivity systems ultimately require additional
       | effort to implement. Good systems can have a net reduction in
       | workload, but many of these complicated productivity systems are
       | really just feel-good rituals that appeal to people who enjoy
       | being organized.
        
       | q_andrew wrote:
       | The line about asking individual knowledge workers to optimize
       | their own work hits me hard. I'm the only programmer in the
       | office I work at. My boss has started telling people that they
       | should take an hour every week to stop and think about how a
       | small process can be done better/faster. The problem is that the
       | longest and most important part of what they do isn't some manual
       | task, but a mental process (they are digital artists). I doubt
       | most people are going to intuitively solve the complexity of
       | their own brains through introspection (as some early
       | psychologists thought we could do). It's easier for me to
       | 'optimize' because I can manipulate how a physical computer
       | operates. It's hard for anyone to manipulate how their intuitive
       | functions work besides slowly gaining experience and mastery.
        
         | krisoft wrote:
         | I don't know what your digital artist coworkers produce, but
         | unless it is pure l'art pour l'art they can think about ways
         | how to streamline processes outside of their art. How do they
         | receive their "brief"? How is the work batched? Does it ever
         | happen that they are asked to produce something which then gets
         | thrown away and wasted for reasons the company could better
         | control? Are there any missunderstandings? If the artist see
         | themselves as simple "brief -> bitmap" converters then this is
         | of course beyond their pigeonhole, but if they are smart and
         | creative people, as I belive they are, they might already have
         | ideas how to improve things. And the boss basically encouraged
         | that those with ideas come forward, so he might believe the
         | same!
         | 
         | Also this "the only way to improve is slowly gaining experience
         | and mastery" is not true. (I was paraphrasing your words) I
         | watch many videos of great artist sharing tips. Again I don't
         | know what medium they work in, but in 3d work one can improve a
         | lot by better organizing their asset library. In digital
         | painting work I have seen people use posable human models to
         | start sketching from. Ian Hubert shares great "lazy tutorials"
         | on how he learned to cheat and animate complex looking things
         | in super simple way. Just spending an hour a week reading up on
         | tricks from others can improve ones "craft".
         | 
         | And what is the worst? You goof around an hour and can't think
         | of anything. You tell the boss that when he asks, what is he
         | going to do? Fire you for not trying hard enough? If he does,
         | he wanted to fire you anyway and was just fishing for an
         | excuse.
        
       | golemiprague wrote:
       | I have never felt a pressure to be more productive except from my
       | own judgement of myself. I know when I am being lazy...
        
       | jbkcc wrote:
       | https://archive.is/zaWTc
        
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