[HN Gopher] Adguard Letter of Support to Quad9 ___________________________________________________________________ Adguard Letter of Support to Quad9 Author : NmAmDa Score : 49 points Date : 2021-09-20 20:05 UTC (2 hours ago) (HTM) web link (adguard.com) (TXT) w3m dump (adguard.com) | CivBase wrote: | > Hamburg Germany court (310 O 99/21) has recently sent a notice | to Quad9 (a standard recursive DNS resolver) demanding to stop | resolving certain domains for all residents in Germany on request | from Sony Music GmbH. According to Sony, those domains in | question are infringing on properties that they claim are covered | by their copyrights. | | This would be like a German court ordering Yellowbook to stop | listing the phone number for a DVD store because they were known | to sell bootleg copies of Sony movies. What a joke. | oneplane wrote: | Same as ordering the post office to stop processing mail | because someone sent a copy of a book in the mail... | zamadatix wrote: | GP's comparison seems considerably more accurate. Even if | your position is that the only way the Post Office could | comply with filtering the mail for the address that's still | not the same as an order to stop processing mail. Not to | mention "someone sent a" makes it sounds like a single | instance which is certainly not what http://uu.canna.to/ | regardless if you agree or disagree with pirating content. | anonymousisme wrote: | I do not understand why more people don't switch to a | decentralized DNS such as OpenNIC (https://www.opennic.org) | | Governments have abused their control of DNS. A distributed | system (with trust and safeguards) is the better way. | gizdan wrote: | Because no one knows about it. But also, looking at their list | of servers, the majority is offline. Assuming this is because | any person can run one, it's probably the reason. | | On top of the above, the likes of Google are enforcing their | DNS servers. For example, I run AdGuard Home with it's DHCP | functionality. I am unable to rely on the DHCP settings on my | Android phone because Google forces the first DNS server to be | 8.8.8.8 with (as far as I can tell) no way to disable this. | | I think at least for the foreseeable future the solution is to | run Unbound and stop relying on DNS resolvers combined with a | firewall that redirects _all_ DNS records AdGuard Home /PiHole. | This is obviously not a solution to the general public. | zamadatix wrote: | If everyone used OpenNIC what would be different about this | case? | ignoramous wrote: | > _The spendings will only grow as more and more similar court | rulings are handed out (which without a doubt will come | eventually). It will become near impossible to uphold a DNS | service, and all small DNS resolvers will vanish._ | | I run one such _small_ public DNS (DoH-only) resolver (primarily | popular in countries where censorship is low to moderate), and | know several other folks who do. Just the other day we were | discussing the implications of this ruling, but coming from a | country with dismal digital /internet freedom track-record, this | made me sit back and contemplate for a bit (unblocking access to | censored web properties _may_ soon be a crime as the government | here bids to criminalise VPNs): | | I believe, the inevitable over-regulation and insurmountable | legal threats are going to ruin it for the hobbyists who thrive | at the fringes. Internet may soon go the way of the telecom | industry. Controlled by a few, regulated to oblivion, with high | barriers to entry. | | I hope I am wrong. | oofabz wrote: | Quad9 is based in Switzerland, so the German court should only | have jurisdiction over whatever servers are in Germany. It seems | like the worst case scenario is that Quad9 shuts down their | German servers, but still serves German requests from servers in | neighboring countries. | | That said this is still terrible and I hope the German court | reconsiders their decision. The free flow of information is more | valuable than protecting copyrights, because the former benefits | many more people. Most of the copyright holders who feel | threatened by piracy are not even German! The court is protecting | big American businesses over individual Germans. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-09-20 23:01 UTC)