[HN Gopher] Spotify Box
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       Spotify Box
        
       Author : belter
       Score  : 67 points
       Date   : 2021-09-22 20:39 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (evanhailey.com)
        
       | briandoll wrote:
       | I was wondering what the advantage is to building something like
       | this, compared to just using a bluetooth adapter that connects
       | via RCA cables (like this box does).
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       | I suppose one advantage is that if you walk far away from your
       | stereo, you can loose bluetooth connection and drop audio, where
       | this device has it's own WiFi connection and pulls Spotify audio
       | directly, and is just manually controlled via your phone.
        
         | wodenokoto wrote:
         | Also, music doesn't stop if you visit a webpage with an
         | autoplaying video or open an app that plays audio.
        
         | jareklupinski wrote:
         | and an Ethernet jack for even more reliability :)
        
         | polpo wrote:
         | It also means your phone's battery is not draining while you're
         | playing music. I use spotifyd on a Raspberry Pi and it's pretty
         | wonderful.
        
         | hammock wrote:
         | It's Chromecast Audio, but for Spotify.
        
           | extr wrote:
           | Still can't believe they stopped manufacturing these. Such a
           | perfect and cheap solution to the same problem as OP:
           | streaming audio over WiFi to a "dumb" speaker.
        
         | apecat wrote:
         | The tradeoff seems to be that
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         | * Bluetooth offers limited range and uses more battery, and is
         | usually interrupted if someone calls, but supports any
         | application that can play sound.
         | 
         | * Spotify Connect is its own Spotify client and downloads the
         | audio stream from Spotify which allows freedom to roam. But the
         | implementation is indeed limited to Spotify and doesn't support
         | niceties like volume normalization or nerdy details like
         | crossfade (and perhaps not gapless playback)
        
         | mustacheemperor wrote:
         | Bluetooth is inherently lossy/compressed, whereas Spotify
         | Connect directly streams 320kbps to the client device. I'm not
         | sure how much that advantage is negated on a device with such a
         | cheap DAC, but cheap DACs can be good. Bluetooth audio is
         | always going to have some quality compromises, and it looks
         | like this device is intended for a component stereo setup where
         | quality matters.
         | 
         | Worth noting streaming Spotify over Chromecast (like on a
         | chromecast audio) is oddly enough limited to 256 kbps AAC. The
         | TV chromecast devices support Spotify Connect, I guess because
         | they boot the full app GUI.
        
       | deeblering4 wrote:
       | If you are in the apple ecosystem an airport express provides a
       | similar feature set (airplay to analog stero line out) and can
       | output to multiple airports (in different rooms) simultaneously.
       | 
       | Granted its not as headless. a iDevice (or airplay compatible
       | source) needs to be running.
       | 
       | I have analog stereos in a few rooms and the airport express
       | provides a nice way for anyone in the house to cast music from
       | whatever app they like. and with modern iOS you can even output
       | to different zones for different apps.
       | 
       | The airport expresses are roughly $50 a pop, less if you are
       | patient.
        
         | bjelkeman-again wrote:
         | Shame they don't sell Airport Express anymore.
        
           | srgpqt wrote:
           | They are often sold used for 10$ to 30$ on ebay and other
           | sites.
        
       | DenseComet wrote:
       | Wow this is a super impressive project. I was originally
       | expecting a device built around a Raspberry Pi, but this is a
       | completely custom designed linux board!
        
         | NGRhodes wrote:
         | And a nicely detailed writeup.
        
       | yepthatsreality wrote:
       | I wish Pandora's APIs were more open. There's a library for their
       | radio feature[0] but no API for their music subscription service.
       | 
       | [0] https://6xq.net/pianobar/
        
       | mikewave wrote:
       | For anyone else who wants to do this, just set up the absolutely
       | amazing Volumio on your RPi or any other computer.
       | 
       | https://volumio.org/
       | 
       | The web app is great for use in your house, the Spotify plugin is
       | first class - it's supported as a target in your Spotify app, or
       | you can browse straight from the webapp, which means even a guest
       | on your wifi can easily pop on and help pick the music.
        
       | lostgame wrote:
       | I was not aware there was an OSS Spotify client before reading
       | this article.
       | 
       | That's neat!
        
       | celim307 wrote:
       | Would a chrome cast audio work? Or is it not high fidelity enough
        
         | ddrmaxgt37 wrote:
         | It should work. I have one outputting digital to my hi-fi via
         | TOSLINK.
        
       | bigtones wrote:
       | A $30 Raspberry Pi with free Volumio serves the same purpose for
       | me, and I can attach a DAC hat to the top of the Pi for high
       | fidelity audio - but this looks so much better with it's
       | beautiful wood finish.
        
         | mikewave wrote:
         | Any recommendations for the DAC? I'm using a USB sound card
         | right now on my Volumio Pi but haven't been thrilled about it.
         | What I really want is SPDIF coaxial or optical output, on the
         | cheap.
        
           | feelepxyz wrote:
           | I've been using a HifiBerry DAC (DAC+ DSP) with a RBP and
           | their HifiBerry OS which comes with a bunch of streaming
           | services built in, the DSP DAC also allows you to upload a
           | profile to adjust for room acoustics.
        
       | Klonoar wrote:
       | Since it uses spotifyd, this only works with Premium accounts
       | right?
       | 
       | Very cool project otherwise, love the end result.
        
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