[HN Gopher] Writing the Roadmap from Engineer to Manager
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       Writing the Roadmap from Engineer to Manager
        
       Author : 0x54MUR41
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2021-09-25 10:36 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | giantg2 wrote:
       | Is it wrong that these sorts of books demotivate me?
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       | I've read plenty of them years ago, but never got any real
       | opportunities to utilize the skills. Management is so many steps
       | away that it doesn't matter (I work at a large company). On top
       | of that, even if I get promoted into "management", it would only
       | be a 7% raise and at least 40% of my time would still be dev work
       | (thanks development chapter lead model...). What's the point if
       | there's not a clear and reasonable path to the real money
       | ($200k+)?
        
         | avereveard wrote:
         | > and at least 40% of my time would still be dev work
         | 
         | that's not management, that's a leadership position.
         | 
         | if in doubt when they offer you a management position ask what
         | the budget for the role is, if it's none, you'd be just either
         | a secretary doing the grunt work for some other real manager
         | (nowadays known as "middle management") or a lead they gave a
         | sounding title in lieu of the dangling carrot.
        
         | sbarre wrote:
         | If money is what you're after, then changing companies is the
         | way to go.. especially right now while the market is so hot.
         | 
         | But if the idea of real people management, so supporting others
         | and helping them grow and advance their careers (not just
         | "being the boss"), is interesting to you, then these kinds of
         | resources are great.
         | 
         | Good people management is harder than it looks. I've been on a
         | 2-year journey to learn the skills required to do it well
         | because I am no longer interested in day-to-day coding, but I
         | like the idea of staying close to the practice and helping more
         | junior developers grow and get better.
         | 
         | If you still have to code and be a manager, that sounds.. like
         | a good reason to look for a job elsewhere.
         | 
         | Unless you're talking about a tech lead role where you mentor
         | and guide, which is different.
         | 
         | But managing people's careers, helping them with salary
         | conversations, HR stuff, job coaching and more.. that's a full-
         | time job.
        
         | analog31 wrote:
         | One possible answer is developer burnout. How many more years
         | of high intensity coding do you have left?
         | 
         | There is no clear path to the real money.
        
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