[HN Gopher] Writing the Roadmap from Engineer to Manager ___________________________________________________________________ Writing the Roadmap from Engineer to Manager Author : 0x54MUR41 Score : 35 points Date : 2021-09-25 10:36 UTC (1 days ago) (HTM) web link (stackoverflow.blog) (TXT) w3m dump (stackoverflow.blog) | giantg2 wrote: | Is it wrong that these sorts of books demotivate me? | | I've read plenty of them years ago, but never got any real | opportunities to utilize the skills. Management is so many steps | away that it doesn't matter (I work at a large company). On top | of that, even if I get promoted into "management", it would only | be a 7% raise and at least 40% of my time would still be dev work | (thanks development chapter lead model...). What's the point if | there's not a clear and reasonable path to the real money | ($200k+)? | avereveard wrote: | > and at least 40% of my time would still be dev work | | that's not management, that's a leadership position. | | if in doubt when they offer you a management position ask what | the budget for the role is, if it's none, you'd be just either | a secretary doing the grunt work for some other real manager | (nowadays known as "middle management") or a lead they gave a | sounding title in lieu of the dangling carrot. | sbarre wrote: | If money is what you're after, then changing companies is the | way to go.. especially right now while the market is so hot. | | But if the idea of real people management, so supporting others | and helping them grow and advance their careers (not just | "being the boss"), is interesting to you, then these kinds of | resources are great. | | Good people management is harder than it looks. I've been on a | 2-year journey to learn the skills required to do it well | because I am no longer interested in day-to-day coding, but I | like the idea of staying close to the practice and helping more | junior developers grow and get better. | | If you still have to code and be a manager, that sounds.. like | a good reason to look for a job elsewhere. | | Unless you're talking about a tech lead role where you mentor | and guide, which is different. | | But managing people's careers, helping them with salary | conversations, HR stuff, job coaching and more.. that's a full- | time job. | analog31 wrote: | One possible answer is developer burnout. How many more years | of high intensity coding do you have left? | | There is no clear path to the real money. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-09-26 23:00 UTC)