[HN Gopher] A Multi-Billion Dollar Real Estate Project Is Rising...
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       A Multi-Billion Dollar Real Estate Project Is Rising on Native Land
       in Vancouver
        
       Author : jkestner
       Score  : 36 points
       Date   : 2021-10-11 21:24 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | GaryTang wrote:
       | Look at what we can achieve when taxes are out of the picture.
        
       | Apocryphon wrote:
       | If realized, this might be one of the first Solarpunk building
       | developments.
        
         | renewiltord wrote:
         | Genuinely excited for that. I love the Solarpunk aesthetic. The
         | Park Royal in Singapore is awesome. Qiyi City Forest Gardens
         | may not have worked out but it's a good look for sure.
        
       | whoknowswhat11 wrote:
       | Wow. The renderings are always misleading, but there is no way
       | this type of project could easily be approved in a traditional
       | planning process
       | 
       | https://senakw.com/img/vision/MountainTowersfromVanierPark.j...
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       | They obviously did not try to fit into "neighborhood character" -
       | very impressive though looking at details (the bikeable
       | underground garage, the density + green space combo - super
       | interesting).
        
       | TedShiller wrote:
       | It looked a lot nicer when it was just nature
        
         | epistasis wrote:
         | There is a tremendous negative cost to keeping this little tiny
         | chunk as "just nature." If it weren't for these buildings, we
         | would need thousands and thousands of homes sprawled out across
         | many square miles, requiring roads, and literally millions of
         | vehicle miles every year.
         | 
         | This sort of structure preserves nature and allows thousands of
         | people to experience Vancouver that would not be able to
         | otherwise.
         | 
         | Stanley Park is close by for those who want actual nature,
         | rather than the little speck of lawns that was where these
         | buildings are being built.
        
           | admax88qqq wrote:
           | > If it weren't for these buildings, we would need thousands
           | and thousands of homes sprawled out across many square miles.
           | 
           | I mean you could build these towers elsewherez perhaps even
           | demolishing some existing single family dwellings.
           | 
           | Youve made a bit of a false dichotomy here.
        
       | epistasis wrote:
       | Really excited to see this move forward. It's been announced for
       | many months, and been in design for a long time.
       | 
       | This is what can happen when NIMBYs are finally cut out of the
       | picture. So many people's lives will be improved by this project.
        
         | TedShiller wrote:
         | Actually everyone's lives will be collectively worsened. More
         | development means more pollution, more depletion of natural
         | resources. What is actually sustainable is less housing, not
         | more housing.
        
           | mfcl wrote:
           | What you mean is fewer people?
        
           | nikanj wrote:
           | Do you live in a house?
        
           | tryptophan wrote:
           | Dense housing like this is much more environmentally friendly
           | and sustainable.
        
           | renewiltord wrote:
           | All right, Thanos.
        
           | epistasis wrote:
           | We have tried four decades of your "let's limit housing" plan
           | in California. In contrast to improving people's lives, it's
           | made everybody's lives worse, through these means:
           | 
           | 1) massive commutes by car 2) astronomical housing prices 3)
           | forcing people out of state due to these massive housing
           | prices 4) increased pollution because of increased commutes
           | from further and further exurbs 5) massive homelessness from
           | those that aren't able to move before they run out of money,
           | or who hit a massive car or medical expense as the struggle
           | to pay for housing.
           | 
           | Take a peak at the carbon consumption of households in dense
           | areas and suburban areas across the US:
           | 
           | https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/cmjones/viz/USHouseho.
           | ..
           | 
           | Dense urban living is sustainable, suburban living is burning
           | the planet.
           | 
           | The world needs a lot more of these towers. If there's going
           | to be less of any sort kf housing, it's time to tear down
           | suburban homes.
        
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