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       Show HN: A world map of 24x365 average temperature "fingerprints"
        
       Author : jacobn
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2021-10-12 21:07 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | lifthrasiir wrote:
       | Nitpick: Changing the temperature unit does not automatically
       | update the help modal (elsewhere is fine); it seems that a
       | particular language is always associated with a particular unit.
        
         | jacobn wrote:
         | Ah, fixed, thanks!
        
       | crancher wrote:
       | The density and type of ads masks well presented information. I
       | don't see the ads but am left unwilling to share links to the
       | site where I sure would otherwise.
        
         | jacobn wrote:
         | Yeah, the ads are a double-edged sword. We've been running this
         | site for... ten years? And for the longest time it languished
         | with some Google Adsense ads on there, making enough to keep
         | the servers running, but not enough to invest more effort in
         | it.
         | 
         | Then we recently switched ad provider, and the site grew a bit
         | as covid started easing up, revenue doubled with the potential
         | for more, and boom it's worth it to invest in it again.
         | 
         | I don't like the ads. I'd rather offer the site without them.
         | But without them the site wouldn't be up - I'd have to turn off
         | the servers, and there wouldn't be a map of temperature
         | fingerprints at all.
         | 
         | I really wish there were a better solution. But so far there
         | just isn't.
         | 
         | At least we don't do anti-ad-block ;)
         | 
         | (I'm one of the site creators)
        
         | pininja wrote:
         | I agree, without reading your comment I thought the map
         | fingerprints were linking to a tabloid weather report. I went
         | back and realized the pages have very well developed
         | interactive data visualizations.
        
       | mutagen wrote:
       | I miss the old WeatherSpark visualization of past conditions and
       | the future forecast.
       | 
       | They had a wonderful graph of various weather parameters in a
       | nice slippy zoom interface that made it easy to visualize the
       | forecast. It was built in Flash and they decided that a HTML
       | version wasn't viable due to declining ad revenue.
       | 
       | Some appreciation and screenshots of the old version:
       | 
       | https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sad-day-weatherspark-dashboar...
       | 
       | https://flowingdata.com/2011/03/14/weatherspark-for-more-gra...
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       | https://www.reddit.com/r/weather/comments/4hkbq4/rest_in_pea...
       | 
       | https://www.glerl.noaa.gov/pubs/fulltext/2016/20160004.pdf - The
       | interface was even noted in a NOAA paper.
        
         | jacobn wrote:
         | Yeah, those were good times indeed. I try not to think too much
         | about just how many hours/days/weeks/months I spent writing
         | creatively cached Flash graph drawing to get the silky smooth
         | pan & zoom behavior the dashboard offered.
         | 
         | But while lord Google is amazing at indexing SEOd text content,
         | they aren't (weren't?) very good at feeding traffic to a tool
         | with effectively no text. How could they know it was a good way
         | to view the forecast for San Francisco without having a
         | dedicated weathespark.com/forecast/san_francisco page with a
         | decent amount of text along the lines of "forecast", "ten day
         | forecast", "temperature", "precipitation", "rain", etc?
         | 
         | We did try to do something like that but Google never picked it
         | up - while many people loved the dashboard, as a fraction of
         | overall forecast consumers it was probably quite tiny, so I
         | can't say I blame them ;)
        
           | WmyEE0UsWAwC2i wrote:
           | That dashboard was gold. RIP.
        
           | floatrock wrote:
           | Searching for any recipe shows the same paperclip-maximizing-
           | gone-amok do-not-want SEO trap: I don't care about some made-
           | up story about how this ratatouille makes you think of
           | summers at grandma's garden. That's all empty word-calories
           | best left for the writers at pixar. Something truly
           | revolutionary would be if google ranked recipe sites by
           | higher recipe-to-fluff ratios.
           | 
           | Thanks for developing all the stuff at weatherspark. It's one
           | of my favorite practical examples of compact visualization
           | done right.
        
       | NelsonMinar wrote:
       | Congratulations on the new thing! I've loved Weatherspark ever
       | since y'all were doing very innovative presentation back in 2013
       | or so.
       | 
       | One suggestion; have you tried re-centering Southern hemisphere
       | calendars so summer is still in the middle? The "red dot in the
       | middle" is such a clear pattern, no reason you couldn't have it
       | in Australia too.
        
         | jacobn wrote:
         | We've talked about it, but so far no, it messes with the x-axis
         | a little too much (averages, history, compare, everything needs
         | to work & line up across both time & northern/southern
         | hemisphere, and what graph has two x-axes anyway!? ;) and while
         | neat it's a little marginal from a substantive utility
         | perspective?
        
         | gmurphy wrote:
         | Double agree with this suggestion - as I've split my life
         | between hemispheres, weatherspark has been enormously useful
         | for explaining relative climates to new and old friends, but I
         | always have to edit the comparison graphs myself to put summer
         | in the middle before sharing so you can actually compare the
         | differences.
        
           | jacobn wrote:
           | Hmm... maybe for just the compare pages then? I'll chat with
           | James about it to see what we can do.
           | 
           | (I'm one of the site creators)
        
       | NKosmatos wrote:
       | Wow! Such a great site and very good visualization of weather
       | data in easy to read plots/graphs.
        
       | dom96 wrote:
       | This is really awesome visualisation. Really shows at a glance
       | the climate of each location.
        
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