[HN Gopher] Obsidian Mirror Used by Elizabeth I's Court Astrolog... ___________________________________________________________________ Obsidian Mirror Used by Elizabeth I's Court Astrologer Has Aztec Origins Author : drdee Score : 37 points Date : 2021-10-10 00:45 UTC (3 days ago) (HTM) web link (www.smithsonianmag.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.smithsonianmag.com) | jhallenworld wrote: | You can make your own "scrying mirror".. | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIxNGvv-bfs | mymythisisthis wrote: | Like tinted glass? | [deleted] | sonofhans wrote: | If you're interested in John Dee, consider John Crowley's AEgypt | books[0]. Crowley is a fantastic writer, a true craftsman, | writing dense, detailed, and somewhat slow fantasy. John Dee and | other Elizabethan occultists feature prominently in the books. | | 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEgypt | chrisseaton wrote: | Note that although 'Aztec' sounds super old, they were actually a | civilisation from as recently as 1300 to 1550 or so, so not | nearly as long ago as it sounds, and actually relatively | contemporary To Elizabeth. | adolph wrote: | _Elizabeth I (7 September 1533 - 24 March 1603)[a] was Queen of | England and Ireland from 17 November 1558 until her death in | 1603. Sometimes called the Virgin Queen, Gloriana or Good Queen | Bess, Elizabeth was the last of the five monarchs of the House | of Tudor._ | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_I | | _To 21st-century eyes, [court astrologer John] Dee 's | activities straddle magic and modern science, but the | distinction would have meant nothing to him. He was invited to | lecture on Euclidean geometry at the University of Paris while | still in his early twenties. He was an ardent promoter of | mathematics, a respected astronomer and a leading expert in | navigation, who trained many who would conduct England's | voyages of discovery._ | | _Meanwhile, he immersed himself in sorcery, astrology and | Hermetic philosophy. Much effort in his last 30 years went into | trying to commune with angels, so as to learn the universal | language of creation and achieve a pre-apocalyptic unity of | mankind._ | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee | Brakenshire wrote: | There's a 15 minute BBC radio programme based around this object | here: | | https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b01ghc4h | davidw wrote: | Obsidian gets around: | https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figure?id=10.1371/... | motohagiography wrote: | How did an artifact for communicating with other worldly beings | that was an ancient and sacred artifact, which originated from | the _Aztecs_ , who lived on _the other side_ of the planet, get | all the way through Spain to not just anyone, but the head | Astrologer to the _Queen of England_? You have to ask the | question, could the connection be that the go-between for the | _Aztec empire_ and the Queen of England was brokered, even | indirectly, by extra-terrestrials? Ancient astronaut theorists | say yes. | | I would say, no, it was by boat. But Smithsonian just giving up | and mixing archeology and the occult may signal a defeat, where | they were like, "the only way we're going to get young people | into the field is if we address this stuff, because that's what | they're interested in. Post that Queen's astrologer and Aztec | magic portal thing, and let's A/B it." | djur wrote: | The article says: | | > [The Spanish] quickly began shipping treasures, including | obsidian mirrors, back to Europe... Dee was interested in the | Spanish Conquest and had probably heard stories about obsidian | mirrors... Dee may have bought the mirror in Bohemia (now part | of the Czech Republic) in the 1580s... | | Not seeing any suggestion of magic portals or ETs here. It is | of historical interest that we've been able to verify the | Mesoamerican origin of these mirrors, and the connection to an | interesting figure like Dee makes a good headline. This isn't | an earthshaking revelation, and I don't think it's being | treated as such. | jameshart wrote: | Maybe they are A/B testing something because the article I get | when I view this link is not about aliens or the occult. | Perhaps I'm in the control cell. | BitwiseFool wrote: | I have no idea what pathways short-circuited in my brain, but | I didn't remember what A/B stood for and my brain said | "Aztec/Britain". And I was like, wait, we have a term for | Aztec to Britain testing, how in the hell did that happen? | | Then suddenly, my brain started working properly again and I | remembered the concept of A/B testing. | estaseuropano wrote: | I too don't see any occult references, neither any suggestion | that this object was very unique. We know about it because he | used it and it ended in the British museum. | detaro wrote: | Huh? Where does the article say anything like that? | lapetitejort wrote: | I'm also puzzling over GPs comment. You can't describe the | mirror without saying how it was used. Nowhere does the | article say that it's the _product_ of occult or extra- | terrestrial activities. | dboreham wrote: | Could also have been Dr. Who | cperciva wrote: | Time Lords _are_ extra-terrestrial. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-10-13 23:00 UTC)