[HN Gopher] Drones from Scraps
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       Drones from Scraps
        
       Author : mooreds
       Score  : 45 points
       Date   : 2021-10-26 14:26 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | jacquesm wrote:
       | I once had an idea for a _very_ low cost servo for flight control
       | (cents), I really should try that out to verify if it works, if
       | it is reliable enough it would allow their cost to drop a bit.
        
         | stavros wrote:
         | What's the design like?
        
           | jacquesm wrote:
           | Email?
        
             | stavros wrote:
             | Sure thing, it's in my profile.
        
               | jacquesm wrote:
               | sent.
        
               | stavros wrote:
               | Thanks, replied!
        
       | btbuildem wrote:
       | This is really cool. I imagine this infrastructure could provide
       | a two-way channel, for example the hospital could send critical /
       | time sensitive supplies (like refrigerated drugs) back to the
       | community, based on samples previously submitted.
        
       | HeyLaughingBoy wrote:
       | This is amazing. Not just the construction of drones from
       | leftover materials, but using them to overcome the problems of
       | limited infrastructure.
       | 
       | I could spend all day reading stuff like this!
        
       | diego wrote:
       | This is a good story, but really the airframes are the cheapest
       | part of fixed wing drones. You can build them out of dollar store
       | foam if you'd like, people have been doing it for years [1]. The
       | expensive part are the electronics, in particular if you'd like
       | the drone to do something useful. The motor, servos, speed
       | controllers, flight controller, gps, receiver, antennas, payload
       | can be 99% of the cost.
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       | [1[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAd5Zbb-p6I
        
         | Ancapistani wrote:
         | As a drone nerd, the very first thing I saw was that the wings
         | they pictured were using a Pixhawk. That model is around $100
         | by itself, and you're not going to be finding them in trash.
         | 
         | Meanwhile, a complete wing from some manufacturers with an
         | autopilot, is ~$150.
         | 
         | On further inspection, they're using a 3D-printed fuselage, and
         | presumably 3D printed wing supports. In that case, the only
         | thing that _might_ be made from  "scraps" is the cardboard
         | skin.
        
           | stavros wrote:
           | Foam: $10
           | 
           | Flight controller: $15
           | 
           | GPS: $15
           | 
           | ESC: $20
           | 
           | Motor: $20
           | 
           | Receiver: $15
           | 
           | Two servos: $5
           | 
           | If you want video, that's another $30 for camera+vtx. That's
           | it, $130 for the whole thing, with FPV video.
        
         | itsyaboi wrote:
         | Absolutely. In fact, just gluing a $30 flight controller +
         | servos/motor to a foam board can work [1].
         | 
         | I am curious about the "custom SMS" solution used to control
         | the plane. Shame that wasn't expanded on.
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         | [1[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhNWSxHbFjw
        
           | jacquesm wrote:
           | I read that as instrumentation, not control.
        
             | stavros wrote:
             | It probably was, but it's pretty simple to add waypoints to
             | a mission via SMS, just text it the coordinates (and
             | altitude) you want it to go to.
        
               | jacquesm wrote:
               | You'd need to authenticate that or before long your will
               | have your drones stolen or crashed.
        
               | stavros wrote:
               | Certainly, but it's easy to make it accept commands only
               | from certain numbers or containing a password.
        
           | Ancapistani wrote:
           | With a local operator with a radio - and granted, that's not
           | super cheap - you can omit the FC and wire the radio receiver
           | directly to the servos. Then you'd only need an ESC and a
           | motor.
        
             | stavros wrote:
             | A cheap FlySky radio costs $30 or so. The receiver costs
             | another $15. It's really not expensive at all.
        
               | Ancapistani wrote:
               | That's true, but if you're operating on-site that far
               | away you'd need an FPV receiver.
               | 
               | Granted I'm coming from a position of privilege, so when
               | I price this in my head I think "$200 for a RadioMaster
               | TX16S, $600 for a Skyline 04X".
               | 
               | You could totally use a much cheaper setup and have it
               | work just fine. For video feed, you can get COTS
               | solutions for ~$50. You could probably build it for $30.
        
               | stavros wrote:
               | Yeah, if you want the good stuff, you'll spend a lot of
               | money, but a TX16S is way overkill for what they're
               | doing. Plus, if you're going to spend $600 on goggles,
               | might as well get digital ones :P
        
               | Ancapistani wrote:
               | > Plus, if you're going to spend $600 on goggles, might
               | as well get digital ones :P
               | 
               | That's bait :)
        
               | stavros wrote:
               | Oh man I got the DJI ones and now I can't fly my analog
               | planes because I don't like having my image composed of
               | three blobs.
               | 
               | Seeing this from the goggles is fantastic:
               | 
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn9th3C1XDI
        
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