[HN Gopher] 31/2 years on my custom emperor mattress - a retrosp... ___________________________________________________________________ 31/2 years on my custom emperor mattress - a retrospective Author : MiddleEndian Score : 86 points Date : 2021-10-29 20:55 UTC (2 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.middleendian.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.middleendian.com) | dsauerbrun wrote: | I can't imagine needing a bed like that for any other reason | besides hosting giant orgies. I hope your ridiculous bed brings | you many more years of enjoyment! | almog wrote: | Either that or residents of Wyoming: | https://sleepboutique.ca/alaskan-king-wyoming-king-beds-aka-... | | Alaskans will not ""sleep"" in beds smaller than 9' x 9' it | seems. | math0ne wrote: | haha, that video is hilarious! | jimt1234 wrote: | Wait. Are you my kid? Oh well, go to sleep. LOL | White_Wolf wrote: | Christ... that 9x9 bed is almost as big as our bedroom(30cm | left to the wall). | [deleted] | MiddleEndian wrote: | Well, no comment on that one! :P | | But I do enjoy the bed quite a bit lol | chrisBob wrote: | I am very interested in the buckling gel, and I have considered | getting a mattress from Purple a few times. Is it a significant | upgrade from memory foam? | MikeKusold wrote: | Purple is carried by some mattress stores. When I laid on it, I | immediately didn't like it. It has an unstable feel to it | because of the grids. | MiddleEndian wrote: | It's somewhat subjective of course, but for me it's a huge | upgrade. | | Form-wise, memory foam will respond to your positions but I | feel like it's very slow and I also feel like I'm slowly | sinking downward forever when I sleep on memory foam. Buckling | gel responds very quickly, latex does as well. Latex is more | springy, makes for a good core and isn't too bad to sleep on | directly itself either, but buckling gel really fills in gaps | and is super supportive. | | Temperature-wise, memory foam makes me very hot when I sleep | and I dislike that. Latex is much cooler and buckling gel even | cooler than that. | | (Everything I said about latex applies to polyurethane, which I | believe Purple uses for its core rather than latex) | thethethethe wrote: | I had a purple 2 king and it was very comfortable but the | motion transfer was bad. I suggest getting something else of | you have a partner and a couple of grand to spend | Scoundreller wrote: | I originally read that as "caveat emptor mattress", which would | also be a fun topic. | MiddleEndian wrote: | Given the weird materials people put in commercial mattresses, | this is wouldn't be too far from the truth for most people. | Waterluvian wrote: | The best thing about a square mattress is that once you have the | right sheets, you can't screw up which way they go on. | MiddleEndian wrote: | Not gonna lie that was a factor in me choosing emperor (7x7) | over caesar (8x7) originally. Square is a good shape. | tshaddox wrote: | Speaking of that, where do you get sheets for this thing? I | don't see that mentioned in either article. I suppose they | ought to be a bit easier to custom manufacture than the | mattress itself. | retzkek wrote: | I was wondering the same thing, it's in the original article: | | > I ordered a custom-sized bamboo bed set from Advanced | Bedding. Their website had a form where I could just fill in | the dimensions so it seemed like it would be the only | purchase that didn't involve any human interaction, but they | called to confirm anyway as the numbers were "unusual." | MiddleEndian wrote: | The other posts covered the sheet sizes, but this reminds me | of something I forgot to include in my article. | | My comforter is too large for my washing machine, so I wash | it in the tub every few months. | s5300 wrote: | Mentioned halfway down under "sheets" from his hyperlinked OG | build thread. | | https://www.middleendian.com/emperor | aroundtown wrote: | The one question I wanted answered, how good is the sex on a | mattress this big. | | Nobody talks of how foam mattresses change the dynamics of sex. | Gone is the nice bounce back from the coils. Instead you get the | firm motion deadening of the foam. Participants expecting to find | that extra spring in their step find they have to provide their | own bounce. I hope your muscles are up for it. | | I personally don't having sex on a foam mattress. I think those | seeking a foam mattress should consider keeping around a spare | coiled sex bed. Call it your guest bed if so inclined. It will be | there for you, providing that extra spring you may be missing | from you foam mattress. | MiddleEndian wrote: | This is certainly not as squishy as most foam mattresses, it's | not memory foam, the materials are pretty bouncy. Plus the | buckling gel allows you to have good on-the-fly form fitted | gripping locations. So to keep this HN appropriate, I'll just | say no complaints here! | lapetitejort wrote: | Is there an authority on mattress size naming standards to whom I | may offer a suggestion? Having just read Julian by Gore Vidal, I | learned that a few centuries after Caesar and Augustus, the title | of Caesar ranked below that of Augustus (well played, Gaius | Octavius). I suggest King->Caesar->Augustus. | | However if we want to get into semantics, the word King descends | from the word Caesar. Perhaps replace King with Minister, and | Queen with Representative? | dorfsmay wrote: | I'd much prefer 2x3 fora 2m by 3m bed. Poetic names confuses | me: Why is a twin different than a double but the exact same | thing as a single? Call them by their size, done. | MiddleEndian wrote: | If I do make that 8'4"x8'4" mattress I'll call it an Augustus | as you suggest. | violiner wrote: | "King" is derived from Old English "cyning". Some similar words | (Tsar and Kaiser, for example) derive from "Caesar", but "king" | isn't one of them. | Jtsummers wrote: | You beat me to it. Only fresh in my mind because of the | Anglo-Saxon and Latin discussions also on the front page | right now (I'd grabbed a couple books off the shelf and was | trying to read them, I've forgotten a lot in 15 years and | didn't make it far). | violiner wrote: | High fives none the less. | EastOfTruth wrote: | Cool project but it seems odd that you didn't really save any | money since mattresses appear to be so over-priced. | MiddleEndian wrote: | I'd say the lack of price savings are mainly these three | factors: | | Material quality: Purple, which I roughly used as inspiration | for my original mattress design, used polyurethane which is | cheaper and lighter, but less durable, than the latex I used | for the core of my mattress. I have no idea what they used now | but that was the case at the time. | | Economies of scale: They can keep making the same few shapes | cheaper. I was unable to buy specific dimensions of buckling | column gel so I had to buy several toppers to extract the | material and I only used 49 square feet out of the 64 square | feet (although I found other uses for some of the remaining | gel), plus the toppers came with other cheap foam that I had | little use for. It's really difficult to order buckling column | gel directly. | | The literal scale: My mattress is larger than most of the US | mattress companies, more material = more money. I imagine an | emperor sized mattress would be similarly or more expensive | from Purple. I would've gotten slightly better ROI per size had | I made my bed larger due to the aforementioned discarded | buckling column gel. Plus I needed to get nonstandard custom | sheets and a custom sized encasement. | MiddleEndian wrote: | The original hacker news thread from when I built the mattress: | | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17558719 | arthurjj wrote: | "At this point, I decided the only thing that made sense was to | build my own from scratch." | | This is such a beautiful sentence and sentiment. If HN were to | have a motto it could do a lot worse than that | JackMorgan wrote: | This is the spirit that keeps me coming back for more! | jbelich wrote: | I did something similar to you, except I used progressively less | dense layers of latex (also from foamorder.com). CalKing rather | than anything larger, but I've considered larger and I've been | thinking it's better to make an Emperor or Caesar size formed | from two halves. | | it's been 10 years btw since I build mine. There's a slight give | in the densest lower layer but it's held up enough that I still | only really need to replace the top layer to get it back up to | snuff. | | My question: how in the hell do you afford sheets that size? lol | goldcd wrote: | As an entirely subjective point - I went from fully sprung, to a | Tempur (all foam) and both had benefits and both weren't 'right' | Currently have a 'Simba' (Just one of the UK's many internet | mattress brands) which has coil+foam - | https://simbasleep.com/products/mattress and think it gives the | best of both worlds. | | Sorry, I now realize this sounds like an advert - but I'm | fascinated how 'online mattresses' have become 'a thing' Previous | online examples (say amazon with books) were just higlighting | that online can provide the same item you could checkout offline, | for less. | | Mattresses should be an item you have to check out in person - | but due to the outrageous markups, people will now happily buy | sight-unseen online. | rootusrootus wrote: | > due to the outrageous markups | | Not only that, but traditional mattress shops still use some of | the highest pressure sales tactics I've experienced. It only | takes once to make you never want to set foot in one again. | glitchcrab wrote: | I really wasn't keen on the idea of buying a mattress without | testing it, but then the more I thought about it the more I | realised that spending a few minutes on it in a showroom is not | even remotely indicative as to what a whole night would be | like. | | I caved and purchased a Nectar mattress (I'm also in the UK), | mostly because you got a year's (!) money back guarantee. Best | choice I ever made - it highlighted how poor my old mattress | was and I never needed to use the guarantee. | MiddleEndian wrote: | I was honestly concerned about whether I'd like the materials | in person but I definitely passed out on it in various stages | of construction to confirm I was going in the right direction. | | Nowadays you probably have a friend or two who's ordered an | online mattress you can try out. | gifnamething wrote: | My Simba pillow - essentially made from mattress offcuts - has | collapsed quite a lot in around 6 months. It's fine for now but | I worry about the future. On the other hand, the throw is | lovely. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-10-29 23:00 UTC)