[HN Gopher] New research highlights the damage caused by process... ___________________________________________________________________ New research highlights the damage caused by processed food Author : jseliger Score : 26 points Date : 2021-11-02 21:00 UTC (2 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.levelshealth.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.levelshealth.com) | JoeNr76 wrote: | Why are we still talking about the CIM? It failed practically | every test we threw at it. Sure low carb diets can make you lose | weight, but that's because you eat less, not because of insuline. | wolverine876 wrote: | Can you give us some sources on that? | wolverine876 wrote: | Can someone, maybe even a nutritionist or doctor, recommend an | authoritative textbook or course on nutrition? I would need | something at the undergraduate or non-specialist graduate level. | Being a topic that directly affects every day of the rest of my | life, I would like to gain as sophisticated an understanding as a | can, given limits of time. I could work through one textbook or | course. | | I know there are not always authoritative answers about | nutrition; there is much uncertainty. That's all the more reason | to have the knowledge distilled by an expert (who would of course | discuss uncertainties). | zemvpferreira wrote: | What interests you specifically? I've never read a nutrition | textbook front-to-back but I spend a good portion of my time | reading research and opinions on nutrition. I think I've | cobbled together a pretty good education on the topic over the | past decade. I'm sad to say 99% of what I've read has been hack | science, stupidly obvious or minute in importance. | | It's almost troubling to me how far you can go just following | Michael Pollan's old chestnut: eat (real) food, not too much, | mostly plants. Barring any intolerances that right there will | get you to near-optimal nutrition for general health in 8 | words. | wolverine876 wrote: | A couple things I've wondered about: | | * The popular fake meats, such as Impossible burgers, seem like | ultra-processed foods. Is that right? Are they healthier than | meat (a question without a general answer, but worth | considering)? They could help with climate change, regardless. | | * A basic question, but I haven't found an authoritative answer: | Warnings about carbohydrates talk about processed foods but are | silent on whole grains. Are whole grains a more healthy way to | consume carbs? | friedman23 wrote: | "Plant based meats" are carbohydrate heavy so they are really | only meat-like in terms of taste and texture but fail as meat | replacements due to the completely different nutritional | profile. | lytefm wrote: | If I recall correctly, carbohydrates alone can explain about 1/3 | of the variability in postprandial glucose responses [1]. That's | a lot, but not the whole story. | | Variability between individuals and also for the same meals at | different times of the day or under different conditions is high. | | But overall, most of the recent nutritional research shows that | grandma/mom was probably right in banning "junk food" and serving | "natural" foods. We've invented highly processed foods before | having fully adjusted to doing agriculture. | | At least my better meals (w.r.t the post-meal glucose response) | were fairly self-composed whereas frozen pizza & co gave me the | worst spikes. | | [1] source tomorrow, maybe ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-11-02 23:00 UTC)