[HN Gopher] Timeline of the Human Condition
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       Timeline of the Human Condition
        
       Author : piotrgrudzien
       Score  : 212 points
       Date   : 2021-11-04 17:55 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.southampton.ac.uk)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.southampton.ac.uk)
        
       | e0m wrote:
       | Each item is 33px tall, which on my screen, and for the sake of
       | easy math, is ~1cm.
       | 
       | If every year got 1 row, and we were on a linear instead of a
       | logarithmic-ish timescale, the start of section 1 (4.1 billion
       | years ago), would be about 41,000km tall, which is slightly
       | bigger than the circumference of the eath.
       | 
       | 13.813 billion years at this scale, at 138,130km, is just over a
       | third of the way to the moon.
        
       | wolverine876 wrote:
       | These tables and charts are filled with events, but remember that
       | for almost all of history, nothing happened. Billions of years
       | and effectively nada. Even if you lived during the Cambrian
       | Explosion, I doubt you would notice anything happening.
       | 
       | ....
       | 
       | If you want an up-to-date, authoritative, useful guide to
       | geological history, you want the International
       | Chronostratigraphic Chart. I'm impressed that this is kept
       | updated and is so well done.
       | 
       | https://stratigraphy.org/chart
        
       | endisneigh wrote:
       | What do people think the last thing on this would be (for human
       | condition, but not for Earth)?
        
         | katabasis wrote:
         | Human-caused climate change creates feedback loops leading to
         | mass extinction events, eventually making the planet unsuitable
         | for complex life.
        
         | kuprel wrote:
         | Replacement by AI or aliens
        
           | calsy wrote:
           | Aliens wouldn't be interested in an already populated,
           | resource depleted, polluted planet. Better choices available
           | for those who can traverse space.
        
             | bpodgursky wrote:
             | It is silly to have any degree of confidence in what
             | advanced aliens would want.
        
       | airstrike wrote:
       | This is possibly the most interesting thing I've ever read. The
       | links littered around the page make it a near endless source of
       | interesting ideas to read and reflect upon
       | 
       | Thank you for sharing it
        
       | diplodocusaur wrote:
       | I wonder how human history changes if you change the order of
       | discovery of inventions
        
       | gjsman-1000 wrote:
       | Hopefully that Carbon Dating is accurate. A minor flaw would turn
       | the entire timeline upside-down.
        
         | rsynnott wrote:
         | The older stuff largely isn't carbon dating; other isotopes are
         | lower resolution but more useful in very long timescales.
        
       | mrwnmonm wrote:
       | Anyone knows how exactly scientists calculate the first number
       | for example? What does a year mean at that point?
        
       | marcus_holmes wrote:
       | In an earlier discussion around early human technology and how we
       | dismiss early human achievements, I pointed out that Australian
       | Aborigines had advanced boats that enabled them to get to
       | Australia 50,000 years ago. Yet, still, we see no mention of that
       | here, and the technology achievements listed here for that period
       | are needles and "advanced fire-making materials" (flints and
       | special rocks). I'm not saying this timeline is wrong, but it
       | does seem to adhere to a western-oriented view where there is a
       | steady progression from primitive to modern, ignoring the many
       | other societies who advanced in different ways.
        
       | leishulang wrote:
       | big bang at 13 billion years ago and life on earth started 4
       | billion years ago. We can't honestly believe earth the only life
       | planet.
        
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       | lxe wrote:
       | I love this. The format, the brevity, the links to resources.
       | Bookmarked.
       | 
       | Also... would you look at that! Thousands of items, and no issues
       | with scrolling!
        
         | kfarr wrote:
         | > Thousands of items, and no issues with scrolling!
         | 
         | Is this taking a dig at React? If so, good one
        
           | lxe wrote:
           | No but also yes
        
       | petargyurov wrote:
       | This is awesome. I've been wanting to make an illustrated all-
       | time timeline infographic that doesn't use AD/BC nonsense. I
       | think I'll use this as a starting point!
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | acdanger wrote:
         | What would you use instead?
        
       | nichohel wrote:
       | Well done, but politically charged. For example, why don't we see
       | an item like "Human activity causes general climate warming trend
       | but all-cause climate-related deaths (flood, drought, extreme
       | temperatures) continue massive trend downward"?
       | 
       | https://ourworldindata.org/ofdacred-international-disaster-d...
       | https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150520193831.h...
       | https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/07/climate_change_heat_r...
       | 
       | edit: fixed link
        
       | tondi wrote:
       | Interestingly, accounting the duration and density of events:
       | 
       | Empires and conquests - 3000 years, Industrial Revolution - 300,
       | Scientific Revolution - 200, Technological Revolution - 50
       | 
       | Every year we go through as much as 4x events than in 1945, and
       | as much as 60 medieval years (!) squished in one year.
        
         | rsynnott wrote:
         | I mean, there's presumably a strong recency bias here.
        
           | cosmobot wrote:
           | Don't forget a correlating exponential growth in human
           | population.
        
       | thangalin wrote:
       | I wrote a shorter version and enlisted scientific illustrators to
       | draw some pictures:
       | 
       | https://impacts.to/downloads/lowres/impacts.pdf
       | 
       | Here are the sources used to craft the book:
       | 
       | https://impacts.to/bibliography.pdf
        
       | NKosmatos wrote:
       | Next time you/we/me face a problem, or think that something
       | important is troubling, have a look at this page and you'll
       | relaize that almost everything is pointless. Pair this timeline
       | with the biggest photo of the milky way [0] and you can wash all
       | your troubles away :-)
       | 
       | [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26490579
        
         | lastofthemojito wrote:
         | This Wikipedia page always gives me a similar feeling:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future
        
       | softwaredoug wrote:
       | I can heartily recommend the recent season of Tides of History
       | podcast if early human history interests you.
       | 
       | I find it particularly fascinating how we've already evolved
       | biologically due to one of our inventions (fire control)
        
       | mikewarot wrote:
       | That is an impressive list.
       | 
       | Nitpickery - I note no entry about sea level rise ca 20000 years
       | ago, nor the end of the Younger Dryas.
       | 
       | Maudslay's thread cutting lathe of 1800 is also absent.
        
       | avgcorrection wrote:
       | I.e. a tragedy.
        
         | wolverine876 wrote:
         | 'A comedy for those that think, a tragedy for those that feel.'
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | dr_kiszonka wrote:
       | This is excellent! I have been looking for a timeline like this
       | for a while.
       | 
       | If I could submit a feature request, it would be to add some
       | mechanism for generating more visual timelines for specific
       | themes. For example, I wish I could create a timeline of diet-
       | related events displayed horizontally, with the x-axis being
       | time.
       | 
       | Regardless, excellent content, and thanks for sharing!
        
         | jorgeleo wrote:
         | Visual timeline comming up:
         | 
         | https://xkcd.com/1732/
        
           | xenocyon wrote:
           | For me at least, this xkcd graphic really made clear how
           | anthropogenic climate change is truly unprecedented in the
           | planet's history - it's the massive rate of change. And it's
           | going to be impossible for the biosphere to adapt well to so
           | sharp a spike.
        
       | FredPret wrote:
       | Civilization - a superorganism consisting of all of us - is
       | growing by leaps and bounds.
       | 
       | Hopefully it eats the whole universe one day
        
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         | spinningslate wrote:
         | >Hopefully it eats the whole universe one day
         | 
         | "I really hope it doesn't"
         | 
         | -- every individual of every non-human species everywhere else
         | in the universe. Probably.
        
           | FredPret wrote:
           | Civilization encompasses them too
        
       | asimpletune wrote:
       | This basically just a page full of spoilers for the game
       | civilization
        
       | NoGravitas wrote:
       | I want to know when existential dread became a part of the human
       | condition.
        
         | sdedovic wrote:
         | > "The story so far:
         | 
         | > In the beginning the Universe was created.
         | 
         | > This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely
         | regarded as a bad move."
         | 
         | -- Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
        
         | tantalor wrote:
         | > 2006 | launch of microblogging service Twitter
        
         | skulk wrote:
         | According to the table, it seems that happened ~2,800,000 years
         | ago.
        
         | rsynnott wrote:
         | Thousands of years ago at least, though mostly in a religious
         | context (hells, millenarianism etc)
        
       | hexxagone wrote:
       | No mention of Louis Pasteur ? Odd.
        
       | jabo wrote:
       | The note at the end puts this timeline into calendar years, which
       | is mind-blowing:
       | 
       | > Rescaled to a calendar year, starting with the big bang at
       | 00:00:00 on 1 January ( ), the Sun forms on 1 September ( ), the
       | Earth on 2 September ( ), earliest signs of life appear on 13
       | September ( ), earliest true mammals on 26 December ( ), and
       | humans just 2 hours before year's end ( ).
       | 
       | > For a year that starts with the earliest true mammals ( ), the
       | dinosaurs go extinct on 17 August ( ), earliest primates appear
       | on 9 September ( ), and humans at dawn of 25 December ( ).
       | 
       | > For a year that starts with the earliest humans ( ), our own
       | species appears on 19 November ( ), the first built constructions
       | on 8 December ( ), and agricultural farming begins at midday on
       | 29 December ( ).
        
         | bschne wrote:
         | Started reading Smil's ,,Energy and Civilization" recently and
         | the sense of acceleration as you enter the last two centuries
         | is almost palpable, absolutely mind-boggling once you start
         | noticing it.
         | 
         | As an aside, IIRC there's a ,,timeline of the universe" on the
         | outside of a spiral ramp at NYC's museum of natural history
         | that does a similarly good job at driving this home.
        
           | rapnie wrote:
           | "Timelapse of the Future: A Journey to the End of Time" is
           | also quite mindblowing and impressive.
           | 
           | https://youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA
        
         | armchairhacker wrote:
         | This is still very long compared to our size vs the size of the
         | universe though.
         | 
         | There are an estimated hundreds of billions of galaxies with
         | billions of stars, and they are all very spaced out too. Most
         | stars are significantly bigger than our planet, and our planet
         | can fit over 7.5 billion humans with a lot of extra space.
         | 
         | There are 8760 hours in a year, so according to the above
         | humans have existed around 1/4380 of the time the universe has.
         | Meanwhile idk the exact amount but we occupy less than
         | 1/1,000,000,000,000 of the space of the universe.
        
         | Moodles wrote:
         | This was beautifully illustrated by Carl Sagan in Cosmos:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln8UwPd1z20
         | 
         | And humans tame fire at 11:46pm on December 31st. Every 0.2
         | seconds is a human lifetime. And all recorded history is just a
         | few seconds. That's every person you've ever heard of, in the
         | last ten seconds. Truly humbling.
        
       | wolverine876 wrote:
       | Recently I researched a dozen or two of the events on the table,
       | and there is a lot of uncertainty of fact, issues of definition,
       | and interpretation involved. That doesn't mean the author is
       | wrong, but take each date as one interpretation of many.
       | 
       | For example, Ancient Greek, developed in ~8th or 10th century BCE
       | (facts aren't 100% clear), is typically credited as the first
       | phonetic alphabet, where characters represent sounds (and the
       | only one - all others being derived from it). The OP says,
       | 
       | > 1850: earliest alphabetic script (Proto-Sinaitic, Sinai and
       | Egypt)
       | 
       | They may mean something slightly different. Also an alphabet of
       | sorts preceded Ancient Greek, maybe the one in the quote above,
       | but lacked vowels among other things, so it depends on your
       | definition of phonetic alphabet.
       | 
       | That's just on example, know there are many ambiguities of
       | definition, fact, and interpretation.
        
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