[HN Gopher] _why's Estate
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       _why's Estate
        
       Author : nonbirithm
       Score  : 105 points
       Date   : 2021-11-07 19:58 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | lilyball wrote:
       | I absolutely loved _why's work. It was hugely influential and
       | wonderful.
       | 
       | Having said that, when they committed identity suicide they
       | deleted everything they could. Preserving their work for archival
       | purposes seems valuable, but I feel weird about operating a
       | "museum" or "estate" dedicated to showing people where to read
       | the stuff that _why tried to delete.
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | dmerrick wrote:
       | Few developers in my career have stuck with me the way _why did.
       | I hope he is doing well, wherever he is.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | One past thread and a bit:
       | 
       |  __why 's Estate_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1004592
       | - Dec 2009 (58 comments)
       | 
       |  __why 's Estate_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16849754
       | - April 2018 (1 comment)
        
       | waynecochran wrote:
       | A lot 404's in there...
        
       | bruce343434 wrote:
       | The very top link, "bloopsaphone", results in a 404.
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | lekevicius wrote:
       | Quil[0] repo has either a homage to _why, or _why has contributed
       | the intro.
       | 
       | [0]: https://github.com/quil/quil
        
       | EsotericAlgo wrote:
       | As a a weasel word, I hear it mentioned whenever why's writing
       | comes up the absolute sea-change it caused in the types of
       | writing that followed it. I know it absolutely changed the
       | content that was coming out even if it was just part of the
       | zeitgeist. Are there any other canonical example of the why
       | style? A few that come to mind:
       | 
       | * Learn You A Haskell for Great Good
       | 
       | * Land o Lisp
       | 
       | * Clojure Brave and True
       | 
       | I don't find myself with the time to luxuriate in this type of
       | writing much any more and typically gravitate towards more terse
       | material. However, I credit this style towards developing an
       | ineffable sort intuition and making autodidact approaches a bit
       | easier (at least for myself).
        
         | bradrn wrote:
         | Oh, so _that_ 's where _LYAH_ came from! I read it when I was
         | first learning Haskell, and I recall being somewhat puzzled by
         | the style. More recently, I know someone who stopped reading it
         | in large part because of the style -- it seems to have gone out
         | of vogue now.
        
         | p4bl0 wrote:
         | You could add at least _Learn You Some Erlang for great good_
         | and _Realm of Racket_ to your list.
        
         | zeckalpha wrote:
         | From Python land, Mark Pilgrim had a similar hiatus from the
         | internet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Pilgrim
        
       | spicybright wrote:
       | FYI the following links 404:
       | 
       | bloopsaphone
       | 
       | hacketyhack
       | 
       | markaby
       | 
       | metaid
       | 
       | chirrup
       | 
       | skistrap
       | 
       | fakeplus
       | 
       | processor
       | 
       | rb_parse_args
       | 
       | The last two seem to not load at all, but it might be a problem
       | with their sites:
       | 
       | rubyforge.org/projects/dns-zone
       | 
       | dotfiles.org/~_why
        
       | Nekorosu wrote:
       | Finally, an act of homage for that wonderful mind.
        
       | ricardobeat wrote:
       | Half of the links are dead? Including the 'whymirror'.
        
       | riffic wrote:
       | didn't they get doxxed at some point? I don't think they're
       | actually dead. this is kind of crossing a line (i'm not an expert
       | so I can't say exactly what line is being crossed, but I don't
       | think it's fair to the person who originally created this work).
       | 
       | edit: yep, wikipedia lists his name. I think "he just wants to be
       | left alone" is a fair statement to make.
        
         | lilyball wrote:
         | They committed identity suicide. For all intents and purposes
         | _why is dead, regardless of the state of the human who used to
         | operate that identity.
        
           | wpietri wrote:
           | I'm uncomfortable with this sort of confounding a character
           | with the person behind it. If an author says they're not
           | writing any more books about X, that doesn't mean that
           | suicide (or murder) has taken place. It just means we won't
           | see anything more from that author using that character
           | unless they change their mind.
           | 
           | My concern is for the person behind it. I hope they're well
           | and are doing something they find more satisfying and less
           | stressful!
        
       | thom wrote:
       | On the one hand, I think almost everything _why touched was
       | beautifully crafted. On the other hand, I am tired of twee
       | programming language tutorials about woodland animals written by
       | people with far less talent. I guess I am getting old.
        
         | handrous wrote:
         | _why's style is like Wes Anderson: great, but divisive; and
         | intolerably awful when anyone with less than excellent taste &
         | skill tries to imitate it.
        
         | 1_player wrote:
         | The tragedy of learning a new programming language as an
         | experienced software engineer is having to start from complete
         | basics tutorials about counting apples in a basket and
         | metaphors to teach what a variable is.
         | 
         | One day I'll finally learn Ruby, once I manage to find a
         | learning resource which isn't aimed at complete newbies and
         | goes in depth into the metaprogramming and intricacies of the
         | language.
        
           | Bayart wrote:
           | I like to start with live coding exercises, think Exercism[0]
           | or Codewars[1], to get a good sense of the syntax and
           | utilities and then do an actual project with real
           | documentation on the side.
           | 
           | Tutorials just don't cut it for me, they never have. It's
           | just a grueling format and it does nothing but put me off the
           | tech I'm looking at.
           | 
           | [0]: https://exercism.org
           | 
           | [1]: https://www.codewars.com
        
           | weaksauce wrote:
           | Other than that metaprogramming ruby book liked in another
           | comment... reading "eloquent ruby" was an absolute treat.
           | it's teaching you all the idiomatic stuff from ruby and not a
           | bunch of filler. easily one of the best ruby books ever
           | written... hell maybe even one of the best programming books.
           | It also dips into metaprogramming and all the other stuff
           | ruby is known for.
        
           | cultofmetatron wrote:
           | you could probably pick it up pretty easily just through
           | rubykoans.
           | 
           | http://www.rubykoans.com/
        
           | hello_newman wrote:
           | this is a really great book on metaprogramming in Ruby
           | 
           | https://github.com/dazhizhang/ruby-
           | rails/blob/master/Metapro...
        
         | HahaReally wrote:
         | Everyone likes a true original and dislikes the imitations.
        
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