[HN Gopher] Open-Source Plastic Scanner
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       Open-Source Plastic Scanner
        
       Author : giuliomagnifico
       Score  : 72 points
       Date   : 2021-11-18 19:49 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (plasticscanner.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (plasticscanner.com)
        
       | Wesxdz wrote:
       | Really like the high quality design of the paper! EUR250 for a
       | kit + shipping/assembly time does seem like a heavy price that
       | would take a long time to pay for itself if not used in a
       | centralized commercial facility. I like to imagine in the future
       | we'll all have circular economy infrastructure built directly
       | into open source hardware appliances in our living spaces, no
       | need to 'take out the trash'
        
       | nikivi wrote:
       | This is super neat. I always wondered why do the people have to
       | 'sort trash' when computers or systems where this trash
       | ultimately goes can do it better than even humans can. I assume
       | at least.
       | 
       | I am aware that not all plastic is recyclable but still. I think
       | the system of getting everyone to do a job that can/should
       | ultimately be automated is so strange. Unless it's impossible to
       | do?
        
         | Goonbaggins wrote:
         | Recycling facilities everywhere use tech like this (near
         | infrared) at an industrial scale [0], and sorting robots that
         | use AI is a rapidly growing industry [1]
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         | [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0OZ7Mlmkvk [1]
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlLy-gT0n_k
        
       | _Adam wrote:
       | This is pretty cool. It looks like the cost of LEDs is by far the
       | largest blocker to scaling this or making it a consumer product
       | (if that's even intended). I suspect it's because they're
       | esoteric frequencies are high precision. Is this precision needed
       | to discriminate between different plastics or does it just
       | increase the accuracy of a match?
        
         | immmmmm wrote:
         | i work with IR emitters (LEDs) (similar to this project but
         | with several cameras), in the SWIR range a single LED can
         | easily cost 10-20$. they tend to have very low efficiency at
         | these wavelengths too, typ around 1mW/sr (120 degrees) at 50mA.
         | a good SWIR setup with a camera and led illumination will
         | quickly be 20-50k.
        
       | mrfusion wrote:
       | I wonder if an app on a phone could do this?
        
       | abetusk wrote:
       | I think some links are broken in the plasticscanner.com site, but
       | it does look to be open source.
       | 
       | * Thesis:
       | https://repository.tudelft.nl/islandora/object/uuid:1fa997b7...
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       | * Wikifactor:
       | https://wikifactory.com/+plasticidentificationanywhere/break...
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       | * EasyEDA Schematic and PCB (GPLv3):
       | https://easyeda.com/jerzeek/nir-spectroscope-final-pcb
        
       | system2 wrote:
       | In the video it said 75% of plastic can be identified. What's
       | with the remaining 25%? What's the next process to identify the
       | remaining 25%?
       | 
       | Also: Total cost Breakout board EUR176.97.
       | 
       | Sounds a little extreme for it. Is it supposed to be this
       | expensive?
        
         | jareklupinski wrote:
         | that how much I would expect to pay for one unit of a custom
         | assembled circuit board, with parts and shipping
         | 
         | my manufacturer makes me buy two though :)
         | 
         | seems to be some more info on the theory behind the operation
         | and limitations here https://github.com/arminstr/reremeter
        
         | mschuster91 wrote:
         | We're not even recycling _ten_ percent (per [1]) of post-
         | consumer plastic waste, and most of the  "recycled" you see in
         | advertising is hogwash - what is counted are scraps from along
         | the manufacturing process that get recycled for that metric.
         | 
         | We should be focusing on actually enabling _any_ recycling, not
         | nitpicking about efficiency gains.
         | 
         | [1]: https://www.epa.gov/facts-and-figures-about-materials-
         | waste-...
        
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