[HN Gopher] The fabulous Flamingo, a motorhome made from an aban...
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       The fabulous Flamingo, a motorhome made from an abandoned aircraft
        
       Author : GordonS
       Score  : 71 points
       Date   : 2021-11-27 15:32 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (uk.motor1.com)
        
       | speed_spread wrote:
       | I look at those tiny windows making up the split windshield and
       | all I see is a giant pedestrian-squashing contraption. To think
       | that this thing is allowed to move on public roads at speeds
       | greater than 3mph is terrifying. This should have been a trailer.
        
       | bitxbitxbitcoin wrote:
       | If you like that, check out the Winnebago Heli-Home.[0] It
       | actually flew.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.thedrive.com/news/34753/the-winnebago-heli-
       | home-...
        
         | ljf wrote:
         | Cheers that was too interesting not to post! Looks amazing
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29361699
        
           | bitxbitxbitcoin wrote:
           | I first learned about it on HN so credit's due to that OP!
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | Everyone of my family members that owned an RV has said that
         | gas mileage was aweful. I'm wondering what would be worse, this
         | heli-home or a regular RV. How much advantage of being able to
         | travel in the literal "as a crow flies" distances vs ground
         | roads, price of regular fuel vs aviation fuel, etc. However, at
         | least in an RV, you don't need sound deadening headphones and
         | intercoms the entire time of travel.
        
           | t0mas88 wrote:
           | For a mid sized helicopter like this, you can expect around
           | 40 gallon per hour and a speed of about 100 mph.
           | 
           | So I don't think this is a solution to the RV fuel
           | consumption problem.
        
             | GekkePrutser wrote:
             | Jet-A1 is a lot cheaper though than unleaded petrol or car
             | diesel at least here in Europe. Especially because it's
             | untaxed.
             | 
             | Still it works out much more expensive for the chopper
             | obviously. Those really guzzle it.
             | 
             | And this one looks so old that might be piston based in
             | which case it would probably run on avgas which is a lot
             | more expensive than car fuel.
        
               | p_l wrote:
               | Tax depends on who is buying, usually. IIRC in Poland
               | private plane owners who are not buying through airclub
               | pay tax on fuel, but airclubs don't, which results in
               | every non-road-legal 4 stroke engine on airfield running
               | on AVGAS-100LL ;)
        
               | GekkePrutser wrote:
               | Seriously?? I thought Avgas is still much more expensive
               | than regular unleaded fuel.
               | 
               | It sure was when I flew but I'm not sure whether we were
               | paying taxes. We bought it through the airclub but it was
               | not a commercial club. So we probably did pay it.
               | 
               | But we paid something like 3,50 euro per liter and this
               | was when regular petrol prices were 1,50 or so. I was
               | told it's so expensive because the special production:
               | They add dehumidifying agents against condensation etc.
               | 
               | I heard a lot of clubs are going for turbodiesel
               | conversions now but the problem is that they have to be
               | completely replaced every X years, they can't just do an
               | engine overhaul like they can on the old Lycoming avgas
               | engines.
        
               | t0mas88 wrote:
               | It's only untaxed for commercial operators, not for your
               | own helicopter or airplane.
        
               | GekkePrutser wrote:
               | Ahh ok I didn't know this. I never flew anything with
               | Jet-A1. Only Avgas.
        
               | riedel wrote:
               | Fun fact is that EU introduced a directive that any state
               | could tax it in 2003 but no one did. So much for the
               | green new deal...
        
               | GekkePrutser wrote:
               | Well it's not really green if they do it. It will have to
               | be done worldwide.
               | 
               | Otherwise all the operators will fuel up to the brim at
               | tax havens and be much heavier (and thus burn more fuel
               | which is bad for the environment). And skimp on fueling
               | at expensive locations and as such introduce dangerous
               | situations (like RyanAir was already caught doing!). I
               | think this was also the reasoning behind the no-tax
               | thing.
               | 
               | They could make it mandatory for intra-europe flights for
               | example but then the airlines will just introduce little
               | side-hops to places like Dubai and Northern Africa for
               | the sake of it. There just is no good solution unless the
               | world agrees on taxation everywhere. That would have been
               | a good point to raise at Glasgow but it was once again
               | all form over function.
        
         | GekkePrutser wrote:
         | Lone Starr would love that!
        
       | squarefoot wrote:
       | How beautiful, loved it! Kudos to the creator for the patience to
       | do the adaptation. I wish we could build and use such a thing
       | legally in the EU, but we have much smaller roads which would be
       | easily clogged by a monster like that. If I may raise some
       | criticism, the rear abrupt cut off looks odd. I would add a few
       | Space Shuttle styled rocket nozzles over there, then hide the air
       | conditioner exhaust in one of them.
        
         | p_l wrote:
         | Well, it wouldn't fit in some cities, but I do not believe a
         | motorhome is for city trips, is it?
         | 
         | This one maybe a bit too big but I think something similar
         | would be doable even with some tiny rural roads.
        
       | verve_rat wrote:
       | Holy shit do I hate the hyperactive editing of that video.
       | 
       | It is a video about a thing you want us to look at, maybe let us
       | have a good look. Long slow pans, not jittery jump cuts.
       | 
       | FFS.
        
       | Stevvo wrote:
       | I love that you can get something like this road-legal in the US;
       | in Europe you wouldn't stand a chance.
        
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         | p_l wrote:
         | The only issue in Europe would be the loading gauge possibly
         | being too big, but that's _specific to this car_ , not specific
         | to making your own custom car.
         | 
         | And with motorhome you're not going to take trips to tiny old
         | city roads anyway, so you can go big.
         | 
         | Your only practical issue is that you need to have C-class
         | driver license for many bigger motorhomes, due to weight limits
         | on normal B-class driver's license. (C-class is trucks,
         | including semi-trailer tractors)
        
         | chrismorgan wrote:
         | I'm curious why you reckon it wouldn't stand a chance. In
         | Australia and New Zealand I'd expect it to be fairly
         | straightforward (meaning fiddly in places but perfectly
         | doable), so long as it isn't too wide (it's within half an inch
         | of the US limit, by the sounds of it). I know one New Zealander
         | making a fairly outrageously large, heavy and wide RV at
         | present, and he knows all the details that will be required to
         | get it road-legal (a family member has done something slightly
         | less extreme before) and reckons it'll be fine.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | How does it getting approved in Australia or New Zealand help
           | counter it being harder to approve in EU?
        
           | chiph wrote:
           | My understanding is that Australia can be pretty picky. Dick
           | & Pip Smith drove an Earthroamer (a $500k offroading RV)
           | around the world and when he got to his native Australia
           | there were several things he had to alter, even though it was
           | titled in Colorado, had Colorado plates, and had a 12-month
           | Carnet from the government for it. The ones I remember were
           | he had to install wider fender flares to ensure full
           | coverage, and replace the red rear turn signals with amber
           | ones. Being famous there apparently didn't help.
        
           | t0mas88 wrote:
           | Australia and New Zealand are also less busy and have wider
           | roads than most of western Europe.
        
         | hellbannedguy wrote:
         | You could get it road leagal in most states here. It stands out
         | though. Cops in the USA have become Revenue Collectors in many
         | parts of the country. Breaking down is not your worry. A $240
         | parking ticket, or a $500 overnight oversized RV ticket is
         | crushing.
         | 
         | (I think RV's will be home to many lucky/skilled Americans. The
         | homes close to jobs cost to much. I would like to see most
         | available federal/state/local land set aside for free camping.)
        
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