[HN Gopher] The Fuel of Philosophers
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The Fuel of Philosophers
Author : comeagain
Score : 25 points
Date : 2021-11-28 19:14 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| Gatsky wrote:
| I wonder to what extent coffee is an association rather than an
| actual antecedant of productivity. This is more evident with
| nicotine for example, where the addicted user will tell you all
| sorts of hogwash about how great smoking is, how they have the
| best converstaions with people when smoking, how they love the
| sound the plastic wrap makes when it comes off the packet, how
| they wrote their novel while chainsmoking etc. In reality they
| come to associate relief of their nicotine cravings with whatever
| they are doing at the time.
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| Nicotine and caffeine probably do have some cognitive benefits
| (my understanding is that the effect for nicotine is there but
| minimal), but they are likely to be quite exaggerated. There is
| also quite a lot of variation in caffeine metabolism, and this no
| doubt has an impact on the perception of its effects. Some people
| down 6 cups of coffee a day and are fine, whereas I would be
| incarcerated for amphetamine abuse if I had that much.
| apocalypstyx wrote:
| This seems to me a milder version of the trope of the artist
| doing drugs to 'expand their mind' beyond what the normies can
| handle. Which reminds me of a supposed story about a Buddhist
| monk who supposedly dropped acid in a club in LA and stated:
| 'this is what meditation is like.' These days I find myself more
| so interested in the people whose minds seem to attain those 'out
| there' states without any external aid.
| coldtea wrote:
| > _These days I find myself more so interested in the people
| whose minds seem to attain those 'out there' states without any
| external aid._
|
| Another classic trope.
| apocalypstyx wrote:
| I didn't claim it was new and revolutionary, rather just the
| likely result of a cynicism toward notions of conferred
| insight (or insight at all, really.)
| tivmas_hidden wrote:
| Not a Buddhist monk, but as a dedicated meditator I can confirm
| this is true. At least the sensory clarity and ego destroying
| aspects of acid. The visual hallucinations of fractals are not
| something I've experienced in meditation.
| Vivtek wrote:
| Rust really only affects sungrown arabica. We've got some rust on
| our own (shadegrown) trees, but if they're healthy and happy and
| not too hot, they stay ahead of the fungus pretty handily.
|
| If you're just after caffeine, though, robusta has more caffeine
| than arabica.
|
| The downside is that robusta needs pollinators and arabica
| doesn't - so you're damned either way as the century wears on.
| You'll probably need to learn to like excelsa.
| dsizzle wrote:
| Not just philosophers -- the quote that comes to mind for me is
| "a mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems."
| quantified wrote:
| The Royal Academy in London was started in a coffeehouse. I'd
| love to know how much of the Enlightenment and the advances of
| the modern world relate to coffee.
| sidpatil wrote:
| Renyi was the one who stated that.
|
| According to Wikipedia, he was a colleague of Erdos, and Erdos
| was known for his coffee habit and later amphetamine use.
| Turing_Machine wrote:
| Musicians, too. Father sir, but do not be so
| harsh! If I couldn't, three times a day, be
| allowed to drink my little cup of coffee, in my anguish
| I will turn into a shriveled-up roast goat.
| Ah! How sweet coffee tastes, more delicious than a
| thousand kisses, milder than muscatel wine.
| Coffee, I have to have coffee, and, if someone wants to
| pamper me, ah, then bring me coffee as a gift!
|
| -- from the Coffee Cantata, by Johann Sebastian Bach
| dsizzle wrote:
| Ha. Now that you mention this, it's kind of surprising there
| aren't that many references to coffee in modern music (at
| least nothing this rhapsodic comes to mind anyway).
|
| Maybe the stronger stuff is more inspiring in the pop era?
| https://open.spotify.com/track/6G3NoUqDpqD3Rgfel2pD6s
| oatmale wrote:
| Morning has broken
|
| Mr. Coffee has spoken
|
| The familiar wake-up call
|
| Sings to my ears
|
| I wake up with a shrug
|
| To the floor with a thud
|
| Where in this hellhole is my coffee mug?
|
| I can now face the day
|
| On legal speed (The American way)
|
| I'm sketching
|
| I'm seizing
|
| I'm spazing
|
| I'm shaking
|
| I can not stop spilling on my brand new shirt
|
| I-I-I'm wored
|
| I'm so inspired
|
| I drank the entire pot
|
| So off to work
|
| Here I come to save the day
|
| On legal speed (The American way)
|
| Drinking coffee
|
| I drink coffee
|
| Drinking coffee everyday
|
| https://open.spotify.com/track/4zDXcKIWCKWpPzeyOWhM6y?si=wJ
| X...
| loevborg wrote:
| C-A-F-F-E-E, trink nicht so viel Kaffee! Nicht fur
| Kinder ist der Turkentrank, Schwacht die Nerven,
| macht dich blass und krank, Sei doch kein
| Muselmann, der ihn nicht lassen kann.
|
| https://www.thelocal.de/20140516/enjoying-coffee-the-
| german-...
|
| https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-a-f-f-e-e
| amelius wrote:
| We still have Jolt Cola.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| The leaky jar of Gorgias.
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