[HN Gopher] What Will Enter the Public Domain in 2022?
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       What Will Enter the Public Domain in 2022?
        
       Author : Amorymeltzer
       Score  : 131 points
       Date   : 2021-12-02 18:54 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | Teknoman117 wrote:
       | A lot of the early SD card patents are expiring, so maybe soon we
       | won't have to pay SD association in order to use the 4-pin data
       | mode on SD cards.
        
       | Pxtl wrote:
       | Worth noting that during the USMCA negotiations under Trump,
       | Canada agreed to extend copyright to life-plus-70 years, up from
       | the current life-plus-50. However, Canada has a 2 year deadline
       | (from 1 July 2020) to actually implement the change to life-
       | plus-70.
        
         | maxwell wrote:
         | Sounds like the Doors may slip through.
        
           | Pxtl wrote:
           | Albums are weird and backwards in Canada because the actual
           | recordings are 70 years flat (thanks to Randy Bachman of
           | Bachman Turner Overdrive who was about to see his first
           | albums enter public domain and lobbied the gov't to extend it
           | from 50 to 70), but the copyright on the written composition
           | is 50 years after death of author.
           | 
           | This strikes me as backwards - like, I feel like there's
           | minimal public interest in getting the specific recording of
           | the performance of the songs into the public domain, while
           | substantial interest in getting the songbook into the public
           | domain so that people can cover it and make derivative works
           | freely. And yet the length of the copyright terms is far
           | stricter on the songbook vs the album, where one is a fixed
           | time from recording while the other adds the lifespan of the
           | author to the mix.
        
       | bluedays wrote:
       | Something something bad design, give me my upvotes for saying
       | what everyone else already said.
        
       | VBprogrammer wrote:
       | Mickey mouse? Naw, didn't think so.
        
         | maxwell wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_in_public_domain#Entering...
        
         | coolspot wrote:
         | They will claim that the author (Walt Disney) is not dead, just
         | frozen in sleep, so copyright doesn't expire.
        
       | lucumo wrote:
       | This design mimics a traditional advent calendar. I think it's
       | kind of cute.
        
         | nemo44x wrote:
         | It's a really bad UX though. There should at least be a link to
         | just a standard list of things.
        
       | aaron695 wrote:
       | Great even more reboots.
       | 
       | Can't _anyone_ have an original thought anymore?
       | 
       | Disney tells us Winnie the Poo is part of our culture, because
       | the more of our culture they own the more money they get, so our
       | response is to fight for these old shitty copyrights?
       | 
       | Not create a new book, or film, or interactive game. We can only
       | copy and remake and sequel and reboot and Universe.
       | 
       | And people think when we get UBI people can sit around all day
       | creating art.
        
       | jurassic wrote:
       | The 1950 United States census will also be released by the
       | National Archives in April 2022. There will be much rejoicing
       | among genealogy nerds.
        
       | DantesKite wrote:
       | This is the worst site I've ever visited. By far. It is acutely
       | annoying. Like if I had to design something to frustrate a
       | person, this would be the platonic ideal.
        
       | thanatos519 wrote:
       | Just tell me when I get my Mickey Mouse hentai, will you?
        
         | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
         | The trademark will never expire so derivative works will be
         | limited in scope.
        
           | pbhjpbhj wrote:
           | You can use trademarks without permission, you can disclaim
           | the origin to avoid any possibility of confusion. AIUI EU
           | courts have frowned on attempts to extend copyright using
           | trademarks.
           | 
           | It feels like a lewd art piece would clearly not be from
           | Disney in any case so trademark really wouldn't be an issue.
           | 
           | I learnt v.recently that UK copyright since 2015 has allowed
           | parody and pastiche (following an EU directive from ~2001),
           | so with a disclaimer on origin you might be able to have your
           | Mickey manga right now?
           | 
           | I guess it will depend on whether Disney can buy another
           | copyright extension in the USA and pay off enough people to
           | push those changes to other jurisdictions based on very
           | spurious notions that we somehow have to harmonise with USA.
           | 
           |  _This is not legal advice and in no way relates to my
           | employment._
        
       | bombastry wrote:
       | In addition to its annoying layout, this site bizarrely decides
       | to mix public domain works from the various different major
       | copyright systems together (life + 50 years, life + 70 years, the
       | old American system of 95 years). For example, Nabokov's first
       | novel in Russian, Mary, is listed because it was published in
       | 1926; he died in 1977 which means in virtually every non-American
       | country, that work will still be copyrighted until 2028.
       | 
       | They also include Jim Morrison who died in 1971, whose death is
       | only relevant to the countries still on the life + 50 years
       | system. However, it seems like very few of the Doors' songs give
       | just Morrison songwriting credit. This means that only a small
       | handful of Doors songs will be in the public domain in those
       | countries and most likely this will not apply to the recordings
       | either.
       | 
       | For American readers, the best way to find out what will be
       | entering the public domain is to go directly to the Wikipedia
       | pages for the "1926 in literature"[1], "1926 in film"[2], etc.
       | 
       | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1926_in_literature
       | 
       | [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1926_in_film
        
       | punnerud wrote:
       | Anyone with a webpage that publish everything that gets public?
       | 
       | Could upload to YouTube and Archive.org, but we still need some
       | place to know what is published and what is not yet found.
        
       | WoodenChair wrote:
       | Well, that's a super annoying design. Listicles are popular for a
       | reason.
        
         | wolpoli wrote:
         | Plus there is a newsletter subscription popup box with no close
         | button, but you have to somehow figure out that you need to
         | click in the grey area outside to close.
        
           | fullstop wrote:
           | There is a close button in the far upper right. Also,
           | clicking outside of the box dismissed the popup. I did not
           | test pressing escape.
        
         | ocdtrekkie wrote:
         | The fact I'd need to go check this every day (or check it on
         | the last day) to see everything is... inane.
        
       | owlbynight wrote:
       | This is easily the worst UX of the year for me. Designed by an
       | absolute alien. Do they really think I'm going to come to this
       | site every day to see a GIS thumbnail instead of just doing a
       | google search to find the entire, unopinionated list?
        
       | gweinberg wrote:
       | TL;DR The Castle.
        
       | camjohnson26 wrote:
       | Copyright law has damaged global culture. Who benefits when the
       | copyright to Winnie-the-Pooh takes almost 100 years to expire?
       | Only the companies who sell licensed merchandise. Think about how
       | many fan works we'll never see because we bizarrely decided to
       | grant creators a monopoly on whatever they create, even if the
       | work enters the public mythology like with Star Wars or Lord of
       | the Rings. The people of the country should own the stories and
       | characters after a reasonable length of time, and 100 years is
       | laughable.
        
         | GhettoComputers wrote:
         | What's the incentive for spending any resources on creative
         | works, or research and development? The twilight fanfic 50
         | shades of gray benefited from becoming its own brand as did
         | league of legends from DOTA which was derived from warcraft,
         | when blizzard was making a warhammer 40K game, so you're not
         | making a great point.
        
           | civilized wrote:
           | Why would we believe that the incentive is materially
           | different if copyright is 50 or 30 years rather than 100? The
           | vast majority of earnings on a creative work are in the few
           | decades immediately following release. Who is going "I won't
           | write this book because it might make me money for only 30
           | years rather than 100"?
        
             | throwawaycities wrote:
             | Historically there might be just as many authors (and other
             | artists) who's works didn't become popular and make money
             | until after their death, as those that became rich and
             | famous during their lifetime.
             | 
             | Of course it seems "times are a changin" and the vast
             | majority of fame comes in the form of a viral and fleeting
             | 15 minutes. Perhaps the law could catch up with the times,
             | by having life imitate art and literally give copyright
             | protection no more than 15 minutes.
        
         | bushbaba wrote:
         | Funny as a patent is granted for much less time. You'd think
         | patents and copyright would have the same duration
        
           | CerealFounder wrote:
           | They used to be commiserate. For whatever reason media based
           | rent seekers lobbied better than ones with technical
           | products.
        
             | ggm wrote:
             | Spellchecker changed commensurate to commiserate. Most
             | apposite!
        
         | intricatedetail wrote:
         | > Copyright law has damaged global culture. Who benefits when
         | the copyright to Winnie-the-Pooh takes almost 100 years to
         | expire?
         | 
         | Xi Jinping
        
         | xwdv wrote:
         | The 100 year expiration is necessary for encouraging people to
         | make new things rather than just shitty fan works until the end
         | of our lifetimes.
        
           | shrubble wrote:
           | Brilliant as JRR Tolkien was, I don't think he had the
           | ability to see into the future of copyright law.
           | 
           | Therefore I believe that his motivation lay elsewhere.
        
           | _jal wrote:
           | ...Which explains why there was no great art made before
           | 1998, right?
        
           | moffkalast wrote:
           | Are they expecting to live 100 years from the point of
           | writing? Till death of the author seems most sensible.
        
             | johannes1234321 wrote:
             | What about the creator who has a wife and family and passes
             | away a day after publication in an accident?
             | 
             | Sure, that example is a bit constructed and imo the
             | death+50 years or 100 years are way too long, but I see
             | value a) in the fact that artists need some time to finance
             | their work and b) that some degree of inheritance is good.
        
               | NoSorryCannot wrote:
               | What does the average person have to do to provide their
               | family this kind of security?
               | 
               | I don't think copyright needs to do double duty as life
               | insurance and it is mostly not helpless widows that are
               | benefitting from it.
        
               | spaetzleesser wrote:
               | That is no different from somebody who has a regular job
               | or starts a business and passes away too soon. There is
               | no security for the family either. In the end the main
               | beneficiaries are big corporations and not creators.
        
           | est31 wrote:
           | The greatest works of past times are "shitty fan works". In
           | the eras before copyright, people were taking each other's
           | works all the time, and improving upon it.
        
             | moffkalast wrote:
             | Reminder that Dante's Inferno was shitty fan fiction.
        
             | GhettoComputers wrote:
             | LoL came from DOTA, which came from Warcraft (which also
             | deviated into MMOs, a copy of Everquest), which came from
             | them making a warhammer game and reusing assets. It never
             | stopped.
        
           | paulryanrogers wrote:
           | Disney has plenty of derivative dribble. One might even argue
           | they've had to buy other creators to escape their old
           | strategy of rehashing pre-copyright fairytales.
           | 
           | People will create even if the long tail of profit is cut
           | short.
        
             | lgrialn wrote:
             | It's "drivel". But you're totally right.
        
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       | lapetitejort wrote:
       | Might be faster to link to the Wikipedia page [0]. As an American
       | some names that stick out to me are Sinclair Lewis and Ludwig
       | Wittgenstein.
       | 
       | [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_in_public_domain
        
       | TedDoesntTalk wrote:
       | Winnie-the-Pooh !
        
       | fnord77 wrote:
       | > All sheet music published in 1926 enters the public domain
       | 
       | from the linked wikipedia article
        
       | karaterobot wrote:
       | Does any site collect a list of works created based on works
       | which have recently entered the public domain? The one that comes
       | to mind is last year's movie _The Invisible Man_ (and here I am
       | assuming they would have had to negotiate with the Wells estate
       | prior to 2017). But, I 'd like to see a more complete list of
       | examples.
        
       | PowerfulWizard wrote:
       | For those of us who are helplessly impatient, run this in
       | console:                   document.querySelectorAll(".countdown-
       | calendar__door").forEach(e => e.classList.add("will-open"))
        
         | Arainach wrote:
         | Is THAT what's going on? What an awful, miserable, hostile
         | website.
         | 
         | Please stop trying to do silly Javascript tricks and just give
         | me text and pictures.
        
           | imachine1980_ wrote:
           | Won't somebody please think of the engagement
        
         | croddin wrote:
         | Then this to show all of the titles
         | document.querySelectorAll(".door-front").forEach(e=>e.remove())
        
           | dheera wrote:
           | I love this, and wish there were a community browser that
           | auto-offers the most popular JS hacks to fix UX. Similar this
           | can be done for JS paywalls and to get rid of annoying
           | newsletter and GDPR boxes without agreeing to them.
        
             | mdaniel wrote:
             | That's the problem ViolentMonkey and sites like
             | https://greasyfork.org/ are trying to fix but as with many
             | "community contributions" the quality is all over the place
        
               | keithnz wrote:
               | I mainly use ViolentMonkey for my own scripts
        
               | mdaniel wrote:
               | As do I. I've never published anything on any community
               | userscript website mostly because I am scratching my own
               | itch(es) and find it suspicious that anyone else would
               | have the same itch and yet want it solved in exactly the
               | same way
        
               | keithnz wrote:
               | it's super underrated I think, I customize sites quite
               | regularly now to fix things that annoy me! Either to
               | remove things, or to modify content so it takes advantage
               | of a big monitor
        
               | mdaniel wrote:
               | > or to modify content so it takes advantage of a big
               | monitor
               | 
               | here's looking at you, GitHub diff div
               | document.querySelector(".application-main .container-
               | xl").style.maxWidth="100%"
               | 
               | /me shakes his fist
        
         | aftbit wrote:
         | Here's all of the titles:
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         | Arnold Schoenberg
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         | W. B. Yeats' Estrangement
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         | Vladimir Nabokov's Mary
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         | Sinclair Lewis
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         | A. A. Milne's Winnie-the-Pooh
         | 
         | Faust directed by F. W. Murnau
         | 
         | Agatha Christie's The Murder of Roger Ackroyd
         | 
         | D. H. Lawrence's The Plumed Serpent
         | 
         | Igor Stravinsky
         | 
         | Don Juan directed by Alan Crosland
         | 
         | Louis Armstrong
         | 
         | Battling Butler directed by Buster Keaton
         | 
         | Diane Arbus
         | 
         | Oscar Micheaux
         | 
         | William Faulkner's Soldiers' Pay
         | 
         | Dorothy Parker's Enough Rope
         | 
         | Zora Neale Hurston's Color Struck
         | 
         | Jim Morrison
         | 
         | Arthur Conan Doyle's The Land of Mist
         | 
         | Stevie Smith
         | 
         | Ivor Novello
         | 
         | Miyamoto Yuriko
         | 
         | T. E. Lawrence's Seven Pillars of Wisdom
         | 
         | Sound recordings published prior to 1923
         | 
         | The Scarlet Letter directed by Victor Sjostrom
         | 
         | Franz Kafka's The Castle
         | 
         | Ludwig Wittgenstein
         | 
         | Vita Sackville-West's The Land
         | 
         | Andre Gide
         | 
         | Bertolt Brecht's Man Equals Man
         | 
         | Ernest Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises
         | 
         | $$('.door-interior
         | span.title').map(x=>x.textContent).join("\n")
        
           | djxfade wrote:
           | Oh great! I have been looking forward to $$('.door-interior
           | span.title').map(x=>x.textContent).join("\n")
        
             | moffkalast wrote:
             | The only title on the list I recognize, such a timeless
             | classic.
        
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