[HN Gopher] Stephen Wolfram - re:Clojure Keynote [video] ___________________________________________________________________ Stephen Wolfram - re:Clojure Keynote [video] Author : tosh Score : 41 points Date : 2021-12-05 11:23 UTC (11 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.youtube.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.youtube.com) | awak3ning wrote: | Wolfram's ego has always been the most off putting thing about | him and his project. I was quite disappointed by the lack of | Clojure relevant material in this Keynote and the unabashed | emphasis on himself and his product. | ppod wrote: | I do understand the pushback on Wolfram's egotism and self- | branding stuff, but he is absolutely wonderful to listen to and | still comes across as a bit of a genius. I think history will be | kind to him. | znpy wrote: | It starts interesting but it then kinda becomes a | Mathematica/Wolfram marketing stunt ? | spoonjim wrote: | Every utterance from Wolfram is Mathematica marketing, even | when he writes (amazing) eulogies for his late friends. | queuebert wrote: | I can't figure out if Wolfram is a brilliant scientist or a | brilliant carney. | pmarreck wrote: | There's a certain type of "success trap" where one's first | success is so significant that they don't ever need to figure | out how to work with other people (or at least people who are | peers and not underlings), and I think that's where the | "carney" element comes from, where you're sort of drunk on | your own hubris (regardless of actual merit) | jonas21 wrote: | Why not both? | Keyframe wrote: | Classic Wolfram then? | | edit: watching it.. SMP, Wolfram, computational language, he | did all of that for past 40 years of course, he even managed to | put himself in the same sentence as John McCarthy, they | invented notebooks and then he's showcasing | Mathematica/notebook.. I actually quite like Wolfram, but | sometimes he's just a tad too much. | copperx wrote: | He forgot about Clojure after a minute or so. Never forget | your audience. | nightski wrote: | Mathematica uses a functional language at its core. As a | functional language enthusiast (including Clojure, although | I haven't used it for anything professionally) I find | discussions about any functional language interesting. | | In other words, I doubt the only thing Clojure folks care | about is Clojure. | Keyframe wrote: | neat overview of mathematica, or wolfram desktop or | whatever.. angle being language design.. but yeah, clojure | disappeared as soon as the camera turned on. | dmos62 wrote: | I'm normally sensitive to people being full of themselves and | I've no such sensation with Wolfram. I'm fascinated by what | he has to say; I find his perspective on computational and | programming languages, him being a specialist outsider, | insightful and valuable. | AlexCoventry wrote: | Thanks, I came over here to see whether it goes anywhere | worthwhile. | [deleted] | mark_l_watson wrote: | I learned a lot watching the demo. Twice in the last three years | I have signed up for Wolfram Desktop (about $30/month) and | experimented with it. They even added some semantic web and | SPARQL support. Watching his demo was good documentation. | | Both times I signed up for the service, I canceled after a few | months because I didn't have a real use case. | | Ten years ago, I experimented with my own Clojure to Wolfram | Language bindings https://github.com/mark- | watson/clojure_wolfram_alpha | shaftoe444 wrote: | Wolfram is on from -2:15:40 | sokoloff wrote: | +9:40:10 seems a useful timestamp reference to me if your | YouTube client references from the start of video. | | At +10:06:00, he starts talking a bit about clojure. 26 minutes | into his presentation at a clojure conference and he talks | about clojure for well under 2 minutes, most of which was | analyzing the text on the wikipedia page for clojure... | | At +10:16, he then very briefly demos a linkage from the | clojure repl into the Wolfram Engine, which is arguably the | only part that's specifically interesting to most conference | watchers. | | If this were a keynote at a Wolfram conference, it would have | been a better fit than as a keynote at a Clojure conference. | vmsp wrote: | I had never heard of Mathematica before. | | I'm pretty sure I'd never use it for anything but one thing that | caught my eye is how easy it is to generate mock data. E.g. | WordList | spoonjim wrote: | It's one of the best pieces of software in the world, with | things like Microsoft Excel and Google Maps. It is run by an | absolutely insufferable guy but he does a good job with it. | ithinkso wrote: | Can I ask you how old are you? Or who do you work? | | Most of people in tech do not use Mathematica but I would put a | lot of chips on a bet that most heard of it. That's why I'm | courious ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-12-05 23:00 UTC)