[HN Gopher] Fakelish - Fake English word generator
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Fakelish - Fake English word generator
Author : lioeters
Score : 71 points
Date : 2021-12-05 17:13 UTC (5 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (fakelish.nwtgck.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (fakelish.nwtgck.org)
| SavantIdiot wrote:
| Speaking of gibberish english: I know this has been on YouTube
| for 10 years, but there are always newcomers who haven't had
| their brain melted by it:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8
| BrandoElFollito wrote:
| For a non-native speaker of English - this sounds like lots of
| songs.
|
| Tangentially related - this is how I discovered Nightwish some
| 15 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg5_mlQOsUQ
| speedcoder wrote:
| Nobody could make up words like Frankie Smith (may he RIP
| 2019) in the middle of Double Dutch Bus
| https://youtu.be/fK9hK82r-AM
| genewitch wrote:
| The sound engineer on the loveline show had Dr Drew Pinsky
| trying to sing this song as an evergreen.
| LordDragonfang wrote:
| Here's another similar one, but acted prose instead of a song:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4Dfa4fOEY
| Joeboy wrote:
| This isn't nonsense in the same way, but it has a similar
| appeal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8yEH8TZUsk
| formerly_proven wrote:
| This is what a parse error feels like.
| avgcorrection wrote:
| My brain isn't melted. This could just be some obscure Dutch
| dialect for all I know.
| foobarbecue wrote:
| Down due to rate limiting so I can't look at it, but sounds
| similar to the fantastic https://www.thisworddoesnotexist.com/
| aendruk wrote:
| Aimlessly flying though Dasher can create some pretty plausible
| new words. It's worth playing around with if you haven't seen it.
| It's in most Linux package managers.
|
| https://www.inference.org.uk/dasher/
| annetipasto wrote:
| Can anyone tell me more about how this works? Most of these don't
| resemble English words at all to me lol, wondering what the
| generative procedure/parameters are in the first place
| jaclaz wrote:
| I find much more interesting:
|
| http://www.thisworddoesnotexist.com/
|
| as it also fakes the definition.
|
| But if you want to write some Vogon like poetry, the words
| generated by Fakelish might be just fine.
| newsbinator wrote:
| dynoderma
|
| dyn*o*derma
|
| a slender, membranous musclelike structure, believed to
| represent a cross between a cranium and the external spaces
| of fish and invertebrates, supporting the glans in most
| vertebrates
|
| "a dynoderma is thought to have existed in all living
| organisms"
| dharmaturtle wrote:
| https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nwtgck/fakelish-npm/develo...
|
| Basically a big probability map. I'm guessing this was machine
| generated though, and it isn't clear to me how that was done.
| mrbukkake wrote:
| Nice idea, naive implementation which leads to the output being
| unconvincing as hypothetical English words. I had a brief look
| and it seems to be proportionally selecting and sticking together
| sequences of letters sampled from English words (lib/word-
| probability.ts). This doesn't take into account syllable
| boundaries, the way the English spelling system maps between
| phones/phonemes and the phonotactic properties of English which
| is why the output looks unconvincing.
|
| A better approach would be to use a markov chain built from
| sampling English text letter-by letter... an even better approach
| would be to build your stats from some source of English words in
| IPA transcription with syllable boundaries etc marked, then map
| from IPA to spelling via some kind of lookup table. We use a
| similar process in reverse in my research group for building
| datasets for doing Bayesian phylogenies of language families
| KennyBlanken wrote:
| Clearly you are far more of a linguist than I am, but from such
| a perspective, I had a similar impression; I reloaded the page
| several times and none of the words struck me as being remotely
| plausibly English. These are worse than most Hollywood scifi
| words/names.
| bruce343434 wrote:
| A letter-by-letter markov chain would lead to similar
| unconvincing results. As you said, vocal groups matter much
| more than single letters. If you know anything about korean,
| they actually group letters into characters that way. If one
| could build such a markov chain for English it would be very
| convincing I think.
| mrbukkake wrote:
| You're right, I forgot that markov chains are memoryless
| themdonuts wrote:
| I got "minable" on my first try and found it impressive and
| surprised that it wasn't a word. After 3 other reloads nothing
| else came up.
| thaumasiotes wrote:
| It definitely is a word, since "mine" is an existing verb.
| tw04 wrote:
| Definitely not a fake word. Coal, for instance, is a minable
| resource.
|
| https://www.dictionary.com/browse/minable
| trynumber9 wrote:
| Strange, most the words I saw looked Greek or Latin
| dbavaria wrote:
| As an American assumed it was more like _British English_.
| delgaudm wrote:
| These read just as plausibly as "Transient companies selling low
| quality imported products on Amazon." If perhaps a bit too easily
| pronounced in English.
| 4ensic wrote:
| Quite a few cromulent words, but far from perfect.
| kaczordon wrote:
| I see what you did there
| alanlammiman wrote:
| I got Donsize. It's when the family handles the layoffs
| jnellis wrote:
| I've seen most of these drugs advertised on television.
| scubbo wrote:
| As well as the associations with [1], this also made me think of
| one of my favourite essays, "Horsehistory study and the automated
| discovery of new areas of thought"[2]
|
| [1] https://www.thisworddoesnotexist.com/ [2]
| https://interconnected.org/home/2021/06/16/horsehistory
| Orionos wrote:
| Markov's chain?
| nkrisc wrote:
| Sorry, after a few refreshes not a single word was anything that
| looked remotely like English. It all looked like complete
| gibberish or words in another language. Most of them weren't even
| pronounceable.
| LordDragonfang wrote:
| On my first load, I got "Plailmly", which uses a sequence of
| consonants that I'm reasonably certain occurs nowhere in the
| English language.
| lokl wrote:
| Not nowhere, but uncommon: calmly, filmlike, ...
| thaumasiotes wrote:
| Try for -ailm-.
| genewitch wrote:
| Flailmen
| Kaibeezy wrote:
| Ailment
| shoto_io wrote:
| Reminds me of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29002776
| dsizzle wrote:
| Reminds me of the Italian song made up of English sounding
| gibberish (although some real words do sneak in, like
| "alright") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8
| SomeBoolshit wrote:
| The title immediately made me go "but Adriano Celentano did
| this". A staple of my childhood even if I only watched German
| dubs.
| surfingdino wrote:
| Coming soon to a Teams meeting in front of you ;-) Amazing!
| gumby wrote:
| <obligatory>
|
| _Jabberwocky_
|
| 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre
| and gimble in the wabe:
|
| All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome
| raths outgrabe.
|
| "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that
| bite, the claws that catch!
|
| Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious
| Bandersnatch!"
|
| He took his vorpal sword in hand; Long time
| the manxome foe he sought--
|
| So rested he by the Tumtum tree And stood
| awhile in thought.
|
| And, as in uffish thought he stood, The
| Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
|
| Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, And
| burbled as it came!
|
| One, two! One, two! And through and through
| The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
|
| He left it dead, and with its head He went
| galumphing back.
|
| "And hast thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to
| my arms, my beamish boy!
|
| O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!" He chortled
| in his joy.
|
| 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre
| and gimble in the wabe:
|
| All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome
| raths outgrabe.
|
| </obligatory>
| hyperbovine wrote:
| I recently started playing the NYT Spelling Bee game. There you
| find yourself wishfully inventing a lot of plausibly English-
| sounding words, only to learn that indeed, (e.g.) "vilicent" is
| not a part of the language. IMO the quality of these words is low
| compared to what a human being comes up with.
| quercusa wrote:
| The first word I got was 'scrotal', which is a real word.
| jstx1 wrote:
| After a few refreshes I got 'sundial'.
| echelon wrote:
| Should probably do a final pass filter against an English
| word dictionary.
| Zenst wrote:
| Portmanteau's are absobloddylutely fun. Though a bit cruel upon
| those learning the language.
| deegles wrote:
| This or pronounceable password generators are great for making
| usernames for random sites. Sometimes you can even get the .com
| for them! (if you're into that)
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