[HN Gopher] Replit.com (YC W18) raises $80M Series B
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       Replit.com (YC W18) raises $80M Series B
        
       Author : plondon514
       Score  : 70 points
       Date   : 2021-12-09 19:04 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | poyu wrote:
       | Replit used to be good. I can open up a page and start writing
       | code. But now it requires an account, and the UI feels less
       | responsive than before.
        
         | jonny_eh wrote:
         | > But now it requires an account
         | 
         | Considering how costly it is to run the service, requiring a
         | free account feels pretty fair.
        
           | paulgb wrote:
           | Especially since if you offer generic compute without any
           | form of registration, you're basically inviting people to
           | mine crypto with your AWS bills, which is something they've
           | experienced: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26682237
        
             | williamstein wrote:
             | At https://CoCalc.com we offer generic compute without any
             | form of registration required (see
             | https://cocalc.com/auth/try). And indeed, crypto mining is
             | a periodic headache for us. I think Replit used to have a
             | model that made it much easier for them to offer something
             | without registration, because they supported client side
             | Python, etc., via Emscripten. However, they eventually seem
             | to have moved away from that.
        
       | komuher wrote:
       | Is this the same company that CEO bullied intern to drop his open
       | source project and was exposed like 7 months ago?
        
         | cloogshicer wrote:
         | What really bugged me about this was actually how he handled
         | the backlash - he initially doubled down, saying he was doing
         | the right thing. Only as the whole thing escalated more, he
         | back-paddled.
         | 
         | Made me feel like he only did it to avoid bad publicity and
         | stuff like this will keep happening.
         | 
         | Ever since, the way Replit represents itself (as the
         | "revolutionary" new platform) is quite off-putting for me and
         | I've stopped using/suggesting them.
        
           | miki123211 wrote:
           | They're doing the exact same thing when accessibility is
           | concerned.
           | 
           | In my few interactions with them, they either claimed that
           | they had it figured out (which is not true), or they promised
           | that it will get fixed really soon. I've reached out to them
           | about it a couple years ago, and little has been done to
           | address the issue since then.
           | 
           | Their accessibility is weird, all the modals, menus and so on
           | are perfectly accessible, you can see that somebody put a lot
           | of thought into them, but core components of their platform
           | (like the terminal) don't have any accessibility at all, even
           | though flipping one switch in the library they use would get
           | them 90% of the way there.
           | 
           | Considering they're deep in the education space, this is a
           | really big issue. People might fail their classes because of
           | this, and it might even possibly be illegal in some
           | jurisdictions. If there's one sector where you really need to
           | do accessibility right, it's education.
        
           | ignoramous wrote:
           | > _[Amjad Masad] initially doubled down, saying he was doing
           | the right thing. Only as the whole thing escalated more, he
           | back-paddled._
           | 
           | Folks should be allowed to change their mind. How is that a
           | bad thing? Given more input / data, it only makes sense a
           | rational person changes their opinion / outlook.
           | 
           | > _Ever since, the way Replit represents itself (as the
           | "revolutionary" new platform) is quite off-putting for me and
           | I've stopped using/suggesting them._
           | 
           | For better or worse, they're going after the next wave of
           | developers. Not you and I:
           | 
           | " _Replit wants to build the future, and to build the future,
           | you don 't rebuild the old thing for the old customers. You
           | build something new that starts out looking like a toy, and
           | you build for the underserved, not just for moral reasons,
           | but for strategic ones. It's disruptive innovation meets the
           | compounding power of young users._"
           | 
           | ...
           | 
           | " _For example, it means not targeting experienced developers
           | to start, even though they 're the more valuable users today.
           | If they've already written their first line of code
           | elsewhere, they definitionally can't write their first line
           | of code in Replit._"
           | 
           | https://archive.is/JC3Ux
        
           | woah wrote:
           | Didn't the CEO have some incredibly megalomaniacal tweet
           | where he claimed that Replit was going to replace all
           | software?
        
         | quickthrower2 wrote:
         | Funny how the mind works. I have a bad memory normally, but I
         | am yeah "heard of this company on HN before and it was
         | something not too awesome. I didn't remember the details but
         | the flag "something bad about X" stuck.
        
         | ZephyrBlu wrote:
         | Yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27424195
        
         | flunhat wrote:
         | The most concerning part about that whole interaction was this
         | small detail (here's the full post:
         | https://intuitiveexplanations.com/tech/replit/):
         | 
         | In the earlier emails, Amjad Masad (the CEO) offered to hire
         | the intern, was pleasant, etc. And then just a few threads
         | later, when things turned sour, he insulted the former intern,
         | calling him the "most demanding intern we've ever had."
         | 
         | It's deeply telling about a person's character when they pull
         | this kind of move -- kind & understanding one moment, negging &
         | insulting the next, even if it contradicts their earlier
         | kindness.
        
       | anm89 wrote:
       | Replit was recently in the news when the CEO used expensive
       | company lawyers to attack a an individual contributor on an open
       | source project to force the project to close even though they had
       | done nothing wrong just because it was impossible to pay the
       | legal fees.
       | 
       | Don't support them.
        
         | plesiv wrote:
         | Not saying replit wasn't wrong in this (CEO apologized), but
         | from my point of view the story is not that clear-cut.
        
           | leaded_syrinx wrote:
           | Apologies don't undo a history of a mal-intent towards
           | employees who helped build the company.
        
         | 0des wrote:
         | Link?
        
           | williamstein wrote:
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27424195
        
       | arcastroe wrote:
       | My go-to for random code snippets has always been glot.io, mostly
       | for the clean and immediate UI experience (no sign-in, etc)
       | 
       | If I'm going to use repl.it and jump through several pages to
       | even get started, I might as well open an IDE instead.
        
       | b20000 wrote:
       | ok, so another tool to find cheap coder talent and create more
       | code monkeys so the cost of engineering can be brought down at
       | large companies.
        
       | lionfish323 wrote:
       | Does anyone have any thoughts on the blog post [0] linked at the
       | end of the announcement? Is this actually how venture capitalists
       | evaluate these sorts of things? That post feels like it
       | approaches "conspiracy theory" levels of leaps [1] about the
       | evolution of the product and its potential impacts from a company
       | whose product offering doesn't really seem to have changed or
       | expanded much in the past few years, and which feels from an
       | outsider's perspective like it's generally being left in the dust
       | by more modern competitors like GH's Codespaces.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.notboring.co/p/replit-remix-the-internet
       | 
       | [1] e.g., the CEO making vague tweets about "web3" = "Replit will
       | be a vortex for talent, creativity, and economic activity online.
       | It might become the operating system for the 21st Century, the
       | platform on top of which much of the internet is built, remixed
       | and monetized."
        
       | hermitcrab wrote:
       | I used Replit to build a Python battlesnake for
       | https://play.battlesnake.com/. It was nice and easy to get
       | started with. Unfortunately the latency/performance isn't
       | reliable enough for my battlesnake - my snake moves between about
       | 50 and 150 in the global league just depending on the Replit
       | server performance.
        
         | robbles wrote:
         | Are you using the default Battlesnake region? Depending on your
         | location and where your replit ends up hosted, switching
         | regions might reduce your latency a bit.
        
       | brunoqc wrote:
       | Does replit work well on normal phone screen?
        
         | devmunchies wrote:
         | They're switching from Monaco to codemirror if they haven't
         | already.
        
           | airocker wrote:
           | Is not Jupiter already on codemirror?
        
             | williamstein wrote:
             | Yes, Jupyter notebook has used CodeMirror for nearly a
             | decade. The official Jupyter notebook has never used
             | Monaco, but the Google version (colab) uses Monaco in order
             | to very nicely leverage LSP support (similar to VS Code).
             | There is preliminary work under way right now to switch
             | from CodeMirror 5 to CodeMirror 6 in the official Jupyter
             | project, but that's going to be significant work (see
             | https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11638).
             | 
             | It doesn't seem like there is much overlap between Replit
             | and Jupyter notebooks right now, as far as I can tell...
        
           | williamstein wrote:
           | They still using Monaco by default (I just signed in and
           | checked). For what it is worth, Monaco used to have zero
           | support for mobile, but recently got much better:
           | https://github.com/microsoft/monaco-
           | editor/issues/246#issuec... I tested out Code Server (vscode
           | via the web) on an ipad recently, and it worked surprisingly
           | well.
        
         | ltazmin wrote:
         | Yes, Replit runs on phones and tablets. You can code & run any
         | repl, share repls & edit with other people. We recently started
         | rolling out CodeMirror as the backbone of the editor and we'll
         | be making a ton more enhancements there.
        
         | spullara wrote:
         | There may be a way for you to test this.
        
           | garbagetime wrote:
           | How?
        
           | dang wrote:
           | Please don't be snarky in HN comments.
           | 
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
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         | TYPE_FASTER wrote:
         | I just tried it out of curiosity. Yes, it works pretty well on
         | my iPhone XR.
        
       | mlazos wrote:
       | I love it for just being able to run a quick snippet. I'm not
       | sure if the one minute interaction I give to it can be monetized.
        
       | VirusNewbie wrote:
       | If Repl.it comes out with a way to sync an offline mode to their
       | cloud offerings I will jump for joy, become a paying user, and
       | maybe even apply to work there.
       | 
       | But cloud only is kind of a show stopper for me.
        
         | jcrites wrote:
         | https://github.com/features/codespaces
        
       | fxtentacle wrote:
       | "Replit (YC W18) Is Hiring to Bring the Next Billion Software
       | Creators Online"
       | 
       | Yeah right, the main problem stopping people from writing python
       | scripts is that the one-click installer isn't convenient enough
       | ;) Or is it all those software developers who refuse to use a
       | keyboard and insist on using a smart phone touchscreen?
       | 
       | Their product is a code snippet repl console. And it's not even
       | the best, first, fastest, or cheapest one.
       | 
       | Their self-presentation to me seems so over the top that I feel
       | like they will turn out to be a scam.
        
         | quickthrower2 wrote:
         | These kinds of things are sometime useful if you need to
         | quickly hack on a language you don't normally use. If you don't
         | normally use that language then you are not used to the
         | install, the package system, the environment variables and
         | hacks you need to get it to work properly, the troubleshooting
         | decision trees, etc.
         | 
         | I agree if python is your main bread and butter language doing
         | REPL locally (or debugging with VS Code) would be much nicer.
        
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