[HN Gopher] Sleep technique used by Salvador Dali works
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       Sleep technique used by Salvador Dali works
        
       Author : ohiovr
       Score  : 51 points
       Date   : 2021-12-10 21:51 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | ohiovr wrote:
       | My Dad also took a lot of naps. I've never been able to fill his
       | shoes figuratively or literally. He was sharp as a pin.
        
         | stavros wrote:
         | He also had big feet?
        
           | ohiovr wrote:
           | Sure did. He stood 6 foot 4 inches. I'm 5'9. His shoes were
           | quite fascinating growing up as a little guy.
        
       | sammalloy wrote:
       | I've experimented with all of these techniques, and you basically
       | get the same benefit from 20 minutes of vigorous exercise.
        
       | mkaic wrote:
       | This is absolutely fascinating. I'm really interested to learn
       | _why_ this seems to work so reliably well. What 's going on on a
       | chemical/electrical level in the brain during N1 sleep that gives
       | it this unique ability, and why does it go away if you go too
       | deep and enter N2 sleep?
       | 
       | Also, I'm incredibly eager to try this out now. First I've heard
       | of it and it seems too good to be true.
        
         | johnisgood wrote:
         | I was also amazed when I could solve logic puzzles (it was a
         | logic game) after having looked at it for a couple of seconds.
         | I cannot/could not explain how I solved it, I could not tell
         | you in advance that I have to move left, then right to connect
         | this and that and so forth, but after having looked at it for a
         | couple of seconds, I pressed the keys "intuitively" and solved
         | it! I did not believe that it really worked at first, but after
         | I solved many difficult levels this way, I was pleasantly
         | shocked. I remember being somewhat sleep deprived at that time
         | as well.
        
         | ohiovr wrote:
         | Looks like the brain has several layers of conscious states.
         | The brain consumes many calories and thinking hard can make you
         | tired. Especially if you have been very productive for a long
         | time and then hit a wall. At the point of mental exhaustion,
         | the brain desires sleep. You fall asleep and begin having a
         | psychosis. The brain uses symbols that represent the psychosis
         | causing hallucination. There is something about breaking the
         | psychosis at the right time that alleviates some mental
         | problems. Disclosure: I'm bipolar. I have some experience with
         | psychosis I can tell you! All dreams are like psychoses..
        
       | kreeben wrote:
       | This sleep technique can be easily replicated in modern life:
       | work from home, have lunch then a lie-down and have the Teams
       | app's blippedy blip blip blip incoming message audio notification
       | wake you up to the harsh world of reality.
       | 
       | Haven't felt this leads to me feeling especially creative,
       | though.
        
         | cgb223 wrote:
         | It makes me imagine creative ways to quit my job and run away
         | to an island somewhere
         | 
         | -\\_(tsu)_/-
        
           | ohiovr wrote:
           | Don't go to an island:
           | 
           | every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
           | [rev 16:20]
        
         | pluc wrote:
         | Someone needs to analyze the anxiety between the first blip and
         | the potential second/multiple blips or expectation thereof
        
       | novosel wrote:
       | We must not forget to mention Einstein, who also was in the habit
       | of taking naps in a an armchair while holding a rock in his hand.
        
       | pier25 wrote:
       | I think I once got into this hypnagogic state by accident. I was
       | having a nap and my dogs woke me up because it was time for their
       | walk.
       | 
       | I felt sleepy while walking the dogs but also had a clarity
       | regarding anything I examined in my mind. It's as if my regular
       | state of mind was like walking in a forest with limited
       | visibility, and now I could see the territory from a bird's
       | perspective.
       | 
       | This lasted for about 15 mins maybe. I've never been able to
       | experience this again. Maybe I should try this technique :)
        
       | thejackgoode wrote:
       | Sometimes I get into what feels like similar state during
       | meditation, particularly when tired. It definitely produces
       | "different" thoughts, but I never thought of it this way.
       | Interesting.
        
       | ohiovr wrote:
       | "As legend goes, Edison would sit in a chair when he got sleepy,
       | holding a ball bearing in his left hand. Soon, he would enter the
       | "hypnagogic state," a stage between wakefulness and sleep where
       | many people claim to have visual and auditory hallucinations."
       | 
       | https://cityftmyers.com/1871/Standing-Thomas-Edison#:~:text=....
       | 
       | This technique should work if you can fall asleep without
       | consciously thinking about what is in your hand. I have taken
       | naps at 3pm now and then when I'm exhausted from studying a
       | problem and fall asleep. Recently in a nap dream I come to a part
       | that seemed to beg my belief even while dreaming. And I was
       | somehow able to arise out of my dream state with conscious
       | effort. I should note that I have been quite productive with the
       | problem I was considering. I can't remember what the problem was.
       | I just saw the article and thought it would be fun to share.
       | 
       | Edison's technique should be automatic. Maybe something like a
       | soft object that when a few moments after it is released makes a
       | squeak sound. Might make a fun toy for inventors looking to
       | maximize on this dream boost effect.
        
         | mkaic wrote:
         | >Maybe something like a soft object that when a few moments
         | after it is released makes a squeak sound.
         | 
         | Could use some kind of heat or capacitive touch sensor to
         | detect when it's no longer in contact with your hand. Or I
         | guess the KISS version of that would just be to use some sort
         | of physical switch to detect when the object hits the floor. I
         | could totally see there being a market for something like this!
        
           | ohiovr wrote:
           | Make it and give me one. I'm working on a spelling bee.
        
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