[HN Gopher] Incorrectly deleted from Facebook? Getting back on m...
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Incorrectly deleted from Facebook? Getting back on might take
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Author : nradov
Score : 65 points
Date : 2021-12-16 19:43 UTC (1 days ago)
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| drunkpotato wrote:
| Deleted my Facebook account years ago, and no regrets.
| fknorangesite wrote:
| Thanks for letting us know.
| technothrasher wrote:
| Perhaps we need an updated version of this article?
|
| https://www.theonion.com/area-man-constantly-mentioning-
| he-d...
| edmcnulty101 wrote:
| Same here! Have an Instagram for dog and a LinkedIn and that's
| my only social media.
|
| All the people I actually wanted to be friends with I'm still
| friends with.
| Underphil wrote:
| I don't understand how this is in any way relevant. This
| article is for people who _do_ want to recover their account.
| adrianmonk wrote:
| I'm in this boat with Instagram. My account is permanently
| banned, and I didn't do anything.
|
| And I mean that literally. I have _never_ done _anything_ with
| the account. I created it years ago, but I never got around to
| posting a photo or anything. It 's just an account with no
| activity.
|
| When I try to login, I see this:
|
| > _Your account has been permanently disabled because it didn 't
| follow our Community Guidelines. This decision can't be reversed
| either because we've already reviewed it, or because 30 days have
| passed since your account was disabled. Learn more about why we
| disable accounts in our Community Guidelines._
|
| So, it's an issue of community guidelines, so what are those?
| Presumably this: https://help.instagram.com/477434105621119
|
| Those guidelines are all about content, and of course I didn't
| post any.
|
| My next thought is maybe someone (like a spammer) took over my
| account and posted something bad. But I have a strong, machine-
| generated random password, so that seems unlikely.
|
| So I tried contacting support through the mobile app (since I
| can't through the web site), and a bot sent me a 5-digit number
| and asked me to reply with a photo of myself holding a piece of
| paper with that number. I did that and got no response. (But
| maybe because the ban is permanent I wasn't supposed to be able
| to contact support.)
| ivank wrote:
| It's probably because you had no activity. Someone may have run
| out of ideas for deleting bot accounts and wrote a query that
| caught idle accounts with no posts.
| prmph wrote:
| The exact same thing happened to me recently, and yet I had
| some activity, though not much. And there was absolutely no
| content in my account that could be construed as violating
| any terms of use. I posted pictures like once or twice a
| year.
|
| Suddenly my account was disabled, with instructions to send
| an image of myself holding up some code; but nothing has
| happened since I sent it.
| tablespoon wrote:
| > And I mean that literally. I have never done anything with
| the account. I created it years ago, but I never got around to
| posting a photo or anything. It's just an account with no
| activity.
|
| Maybe you got caught up in a sweep for "coordinated inauthentic
| activity." IIRC, the groups that do that sometimes stockpile
| inactive accounts for amplifying things in the future. e.g.
|
| https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/13/technology/ch...
| :
|
| > On Twitter, Mr. Gal-Or's video was shared by many accounts
| with suspiciously bare digital personas, according to Darren
| Linvill, who studies social media disinformation at Clemson
| University. This, he said, is a characteristic sign of a
| coordinated operation.
|
| > Of the 534 accounts that tweeted the video from April through
| the end of June, two-fifths had 10 or fewer followers,
| Professor Linvill found. One in nine had zero followers. For
| nine accounts, Mr. Gal-Or's video was their first tweet.
| ceejayoz wrote:
| Yep. A lot of the spam algorithms penalize new accounts, so
| spammers started making them months or years in advance to
| sit idle. Now _that's_ a spam flag.
| woodruffw wrote:
| I've had the exact same thing happen to me twice on IG. Same as
| you: no activity other than a filled out profile, both times
| banned for not following "Community Guidelines." An extremely
| frustrating experience when all I wanted to do was look at my
| friends' photos.
| gidorah wrote:
| I had a similar thing. I wanted to get invoices and billing
| stuff from FB for the company I work at. Created a FB account
| specifically for the purpose, as I don't have a personal
| account. Then got hit with the banhammer.
| 908B64B197 wrote:
| I'm starting to wonder if these ban appeals shouldn't simply be
| handled by small claims courts.
|
| Basically, the company has to have a human justify why it banned
| a fellow human. No response or no account reinstatement simply
| makes the company in contempt of court. If the company has a
| legitimate reason to ban it should be pretty easy to argue (this
| user posted this graphic content in exhibit A.)
| vinaypai wrote:
| I'm no fan of Facebook, but I think this is pretty extreme.
| Other than laws barring discrimination against protected
| classes, nobody has a right to demand that any company provide
| them services.
| jlawson wrote:
| Yes they do have that right, if the company has no
| substitute, and if doing without it is a substantial impact
| on life.
|
| For example, the power company. The telephone company. A sole
| ISP with no local alternatives. A company that owns an
| important toll road near your house. Monopolistic social
| media companies. Etc.
| Karunamon wrote:
| They don't have that right _now_. There is no legal
| framework yet for demanding a social media company provide
| you an account. Many of us would like to see that changed.
| ketzo wrote:
| Anecdote time!
|
| I have a family member who runs a non-profit organization. They
| had contracted a social media agency, and one of the things that
| agency did was make a Facebook page for them.
|
| After the page had gotten some traction, and the contract with
| the agency was ending, their employee removed himself as an admin
| on the page in order to "hand over the keys."
|
| Except he hadn't made anyone else an admin yet. So the page had
| no administrator, and because it had strict settings, it meant
| that literally no one could get into the account.
|
| This page was not big, but it was not small; we're talking
| ~50,000 impressions/post.
|
| Over _four months_ , my family member couldn't get access back to
| this account. She sent in her ID, some tax documents, a picture
| of the literal _business registration_ with her name on it (that
| shared the name of the page). The old administrator confirmed, to
| Facebook over email, that she was intended to be the new
| administrator.
|
| Nothing. Facebook left her hanging.
|
| I reached out to a friend of mine who was a dev at Facebook.
|
| Issue resolved in 48 hours. Over a weekend.
| yumaikas wrote:
| At least facebook employs enough devs that, hopefully, the
| Bacon number to a Facebook dev is 2-3.
| edmcnulty101 wrote:
| We really need an open source version of Facebook that is
| federated like Mastadon.
| wizzwizz4 wrote:
| You mean https://friendi.ca? (Older than Mastodon, better
| privacy controls, supports more of the Fediverse.)
| 3np wrote:
| There is also the more IG-like Pixelfed
| (https://pixelfed.org/)
|
| For those who don't know, ActivityPub enables all of these
| (Mastodon, Pleroma, Pixelfed, Friendica, Misskey, etc) to
| work transparently between implementations and servers.
| ugjka wrote:
| Facebook without a share button! All that meme spam shared from
| pages is tiring, I just want personal statuses
| smm11 wrote:
| The solution here is don't use Facebook or Instagram.
|
| It's not complicated.
| dessant wrote:
| My Facebook account has disappeared without a trace, after having
| been disabled and _very publicly_ reinstated by Facebook months
| before. I don 't understand how is this level of incompetence
| tolerated at a company that wants to mediate social connections
| and own the metaverse.
|
| Does this mean I'm forever banished from a part of society
| because your primitive algorithms are allowed to make
| incontestable decisions without true oversight?
|
| As Facebook's services are sometimes the only way to interact
| with modern society, I think this starts to look like human
| rights abuse. People deserve due process.
|
| https://github.com/wit-ai/wit/issues/1946
|
| https://github.com/facebook/react-native/issues/30395
| bezoz wrote:
| I am a facebook employee and even I had my instagram account
| banned -\\_(tsu)_/-
| pushcx wrote:
| Connections are pretty flaky, unfortunately. Every couple years
| Facebook bans my spouse's account for, I can only guess, having
| the last name spelled more phonetically as "Bot" instead of
| transliterated as "Bhat". (It helps Americans get a little closer
| to correct pronunciation). A friend who's worked there about ten
| years puts in a good word and it's unbanned. Unfortunately not
| this time, it's been two months now.
| protomyth wrote:
| They're also fairly regularly delete Native American accounts
| with English translations (which is there legal name) of Native
| names. These translations predate the internet.
| paulpauper wrote:
| lol it's both hard to delete your FB account but also to get it
| back
| emerged wrote:
| I guess you could delete it by purposefully making them hate
| you. But then they probably keep all your data and you can't
| login to remove any of it.
| bellyfullofbac wrote:
| Some time ago I read the tip that if you send them a data
| protection request to either completely delete everything on
| you or unban you, they'll unban you, because option 1 is too
| hard for them...
| IntrepidWorm wrote:
| You can't remove it regardless. You gave Facebook rights to
| the data the minute it was uploaded.
| Turing_Machine wrote:
| "I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member."
| -- Groucho Marx
| egberts1 wrote:
| I got Facebook-deleted for using a VoIP phone number.
|
| There were no Terms and Conditions against VoIP at the time.
|
| And no way back to Facebook.
| wly_cdgr wrote:
| Just make a new account bro lol
| bserge wrote:
| Deleted? More like liberated. Rejoice and never look back.
| devtul wrote:
| Funny story, deleted my FB acct several years ago, then a couple
| months ago I found a group for my school and tried to reactivate
| my account but now it says I was banned. Silver lining is I won't
| be in FB again.
| mattbee wrote:
| Yup, mine got deleted a couple of weeks before my 42nd birthday,
| as they had determined I was under 13. I'd only been on it a
| year. The form for uploading my ID didn't work, just said "Sorry,
| please try again later" until the deadline for appeals had
| passed. Tried all kinds of file formats. Absolutely no idea what
| triggered it, or what I could have done differently.
|
| Facebook is a once-a-week dumpster dive of community / friend
| news that I always follow up in other ways, so I'm investing even
| less in it this time round!
| LegitShady wrote:
| i had twitter ask me for my drivers license abkjt an hour after
| making thr account and i just decided i preferred not sharing
| it with twitter and never worried about it again.
|
| bullet dodged and thx corpo for helping me make the right
| choice.
| lelandfe wrote:
| In September, IG deleted my account. No email, no warning. I
| lost an unbelievable amount of memories.
|
| To _open_ a support ticket about it, I had to send in a photo
| of me holding up a sign with a captcha on it. Despite following
| up on the ticket 8 times, I still haven 't even gotten a
| response back. Just miserable.
|
| Finally made a new account in October. That new account has
| been "temporarily blocked" 5 times so far. I've had to provide
| my phone number, a 360o video of my face, and more. I really
| don't know why Meta hates me.
| Radim wrote:
| And yet you keep coming back? Fascinating.
|
| Of course I don't know your motivation, but your description
| sounds like some variant of the Stockholm Syndrome - an
| extreme form of domestication, an unwholesome dependency. Are
| these social sites _that much_ a part of your identity?
| smugglerFlynn wrote:
| I find it strange when people downplay network effects of
| facebook/instagram. It's not as simple as switching to
| another brand of toothpaste. These platforms have huge
| network effect, so good luck trying to connect with your
| friends over another channel (which no one uses). Life will
| just go on without you.
|
| Social networks should be heavily regulated or forcefully
| decentralized. It's not about the product anymore, it's
| about society.
| bastardoperator wrote:
| Count it as a blessing and move on...
|
| Also it's pretty easy to understand why a group with hitler in
| their title including references and photos of hitler was deleted
| on accident.
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