[HN Gopher] Create and run your own light shows on Tesla vehicles ___________________________________________________________________ Create and run your own light shows on Tesla vehicles Author : judge2020 Score : 142 points Date : 2021-12-24 17:11 UTC (5 hours ago) (HTM) web link (github.com) (TXT) w3m dump (github.com) | fnord77 wrote: | this seems like an RCE waiting to happen | aaomidi wrote: | Probably CE, not sure how this opens the door to an RCE. | bayindirh wrote: | It can open the doors alright it seems. | Dunedan wrote: | Doesn't running the light show require plugging in a USB | device, which in turn already requires open doors? | bayindirh wrote: | Actually yes, so it already needs open doors, can open | other doors, but both are literal. I'm not sure opening | these doors lead to opening the other, proverbial door to | CE/RCE realms. That may need some more magic. | kwhitefoot wrote: | My 2015 Model S 70D is not supported :-( | gfodor wrote: | Lol all the negative replies here really drives home the "hacker" | spirit in "hacker news" | akira2501 wrote: | It's parsimonious of me, but "hacker" includes the idea of | "pushing hardware into uses not intended by the manufacturer." | | This is an API that's being straight-up handed to you by the | manufacturer, a manufacturer that historically has had a | challenged relationship with the various hacker communities | that have formed around their products. | potatochup wrote: | Do you really think this was originally a planned feature by | Tesla? That some cynical marketing manager sat down ans | though "if we do this we'll get X impressions leading to Y | new sales, lets allocate 0.7FTE engineers to the task"? | | I very much doubt the design requirement for the Model X | include a specification for "muat be able to produce | Christmas shows". This sure looks like some engineer had a | spurt of creativity, which qualifies to "hacking" to me. | typon wrote: | If this was a jailbreak to control the lights, people would be | a lot more excited. Tesla closes off their hardware to hackers | - not exactly the spirit of hacker news | [deleted] | lostlogin wrote: | If Ford made the lights on some cars flash, would it be a mega | corp trying to go viral, or the hacker spirit alive and well? | | I like it, the the cynical angle has some merit. | potatochup wrote: | Is it not possible for an individual engineer within Ford to | have some creativity? To hack on something they weren't | supposed to? Not every output from a company is top-down, | corporate-overload, profit maximizing. | gfodor wrote: | There is an awesome GitHub repo with lots of cool stuff to | hack on for Christmas on millions of electric cars. This is | about as hacker worthy as it gets. | [deleted] | gamblor956 wrote: | Note to Tesla owners: as this modifies the functionality of the | headlamps and rear lights, your car is not street legal at night | while using this code and you will get ticketed if you use this | while driving. | easton wrote: | I'm guessing the prompt to get out of the car means it won't go | while the show is running. | jedberg wrote: | It only works when the car is stopped and the driver is | outside. | Illniyar wrote: | What a wonderful idea. Let me just plug code from some random guy | from the internet into my car. | | I'm sure this feature has no exploitable bugs and was not rushed | to meet the holiday deadline so it's super secure and safe. | RL_Quine wrote: | I mean, of all things this is pretty tame, the car otherwise | includes a web browser which contains parser for every single | file type you can imagine. | | https://github.com/FalconChristmas/fpp/blob/master/docs/FSEQ... | | This is the format being used by the system, which is not new | and appears to be part of a maintained open source project. | bdcravens wrote: | You could say the same thing about running random bash | scripts on your computer, since it too has a browser. | pmorici wrote: | That is the official Tesla GitHub you are supposed to make your | own code to plug in | Illniyar wrote: | That's the problem. You really should not have your car | manufacturer suggesting it's okay to put some random guy's | USB stick in your car. If it was just some guy making a hack, | that'll be awesome ,but since it's official it inherently | implies it's safe to do it. Even if Tesla intended it to be | only for self use. | renewiltord wrote: | You're supposed to read the code, my dude. This is a hacker | forum. | jeroenhd wrote: | What code, though? The repo contains a validation script and | some resources and templates for a third party program. | There's not a lot of code to read. | renewiltord wrote: | It's your responsibility to do due diligence for the code | you're going to run. Don't run it if you're not capable of | doing that due diligence. | tailspin2019 wrote: | Just wait until USB drives with "custom Tesla light shows" | start turning up on eBay! | | "we have super convenience for you pleasure, simply you plug | into car and agree security waning messaage on screen for | custom lite show fun for you and friends!!!" | erulabs wrote: | I mean, it is called _Hacker_ news. Not to be flippant, but if | you want trusted, known, secure, official, warranty-backed | behavior, you might go read like, CNET or something instead? | t8e56vd4ih wrote: | finally something Tesla is good for and nobody is in danger | petarb wrote: | Would love to see what people come up with | vmception wrote: | Would love to see a video or animated gif example! | bhauer wrote: | Now we just need a marketplace/forum for sharing custom .fseq | files. | toomuchtodo wrote: | A GitHub repo? awesome- type list [1]. | | [1] https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome | yellow_lead wrote: | This seems like a lot of work for a marketing stunt | judge2020 wrote: | It's been a thing for a while on the X, they've just opened it | up to running custom scripts from a USB. I'm sure it's | generated thousands of sales for them at this point. | | The X light show: https://youtu.be/-jyPkg0yXzM?t=6 | winternett wrote: | People have been doing that with Honda Civics for decades... | Now if they put all that energy into build quality and making | sure that auto pilot doesn't kill anyone, we'd have something | impressive... :/ | joezydeco wrote: | If it creates an endless stream of YouTube videos featuring | Tesla cars, all for free after this point mind you, it seems | like a win to me. | comeonseriously wrote: | Is this legal? Seems a great way to distract other drivers. | corndoge wrote: | I can think of a bunch of scenarios where that concern doesn't | apply, and so can you. | comeonseriously wrote: | Of course, but I am positive plenty of "look at me" types | will drive around with it[0]. And I'm sure you know that, | too. | | [0] If possible. I don't see where they explicitly say you | can't. | Faaak wrote: | The light show doesn't engage while driving, so no. | jedberg wrote: | It only works when the car is stopped and the driver is | outside. | lastofthemojito wrote: | >Supported Vehicles | | > Model S (2021+) | | > Model X (2021+) | | > Model 3 | | > Model Y | | Someone didn't get the memo from Elon that proper | Teslexicographical sorting is S, 3, X, Y. | winternett wrote: | There's a workaround... Just manually flip the high beams, | shift through drive modes, vigorously alternate turn | indicators, and pump your brakes furiously. | mciancia wrote: | Fixed now xD | velmu wrote: | Is this Full Self Driving? | zaroth wrote: | Amazing to read through that repo and then come to realize that's | not some reverse engineered hacker project, but actually a | trillion dollar car company publishing that on their own GitHub | page. Very cool. | la6471 wrote: | Don't do it while driving | unbanned wrote: | This is not very cool. This is a tremendous waste of resource | and yet more stuff that is added to the Tesla ecosystem which | inevitably will go wrong. | Agent766 wrote: | This was probably used internally to develop the built in | light show, so open sourcing it wouldn't take much work and | could generate some new PR buzz. | groone wrote: | Waste of resources is how other car companies get attention | of potential customers. | halfmatthalfcat wrote: | Oh lighten up...Tesla is pumping out a ton of value already. | razemio wrote: | I can't stand this attitude of yours. Not everything needs to | be efficient, has to have a goal, make money or make sense. | Have fun for once and put that capitalism brain aside for | just 2 seconds. | unbanned wrote: | You don't have to. Just collapse the comment and move on. | servercobra wrote: | It's a good marketing stunt for a company that doesn't have | traditional PR/marketing. And curious how some pre-recorded | flashing lights and opening hatches will inevitably "go | wrong". | [deleted] | vmception wrote: | Tesla has 70,000 fulltime employees and this repo has 2 | contributors. | | It is impossible for this to be a tremendous waste of | resources even if this was the only thing those employees did | for the company. Its a rounding error. | mensetmanusman wrote: | Adding some joy to the world is not necessary a waste of | resources. | hutzlibu wrote: | I very much agree, but I still would like to add, that not | everyone enjoys light pollution ... | MattRix wrote: | what does light pollution have to do with any of this? | hutzlibu wrote: | Blinking lights are a joy for many on christmas, for | others, it is merely annoying light pollution. | hn_throwaway_99 wrote: | shepherdjerred wrote: | What percentage of the world's light pollution do you | suppose will come from this feature? | Gys wrote: | No video :-( | solarkraft wrote: | Here's a video of the pre-loaded light show on the Model X: | https://youtu.be/Xg_0NRi-OxE ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-12-24 23:00 UTC)