[HN Gopher] We Fund Public Interest Tech
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       We Fund Public Interest Tech
        
       Author : doener
       Score  : 116 points
       Date   : 2021-12-25 13:46 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (prototypefund.de)
 (TXT) w3m dump (prototypefund.de)
        
       | greatgib wrote:
       | Awesome fund. Sad that it is limited to German residents and not
       | to all Europeans!
        
         | acqbu wrote:
         | That's true, I've just noticed that. I wish there was an EU-
         | wide initiative available.
        
         | tomtomistaken wrote:
         | Is that even allowed for public funds?
        
           | Xylakant wrote:
           | Why would that not be allowed? There's no limitation on
           | nationality, the requirement is for residency.
        
             | tomtomistaken wrote:
             | > If your company, organisation or institution is
             | established in the EU, you have the right to compete for a
             | public tender in any EU country.[0]
             | 
             | [0]https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-
             | eu/public-c...
        
               | Xylakant wrote:
               | This is not a tender, so the rules don't apply.
               | Generally, tenders would only apply to contracts where
               | the government procures a service or good and only from
               | certain thresholds on (~ 130 000 EUR for services), see
               | further down on the page you linked.
               | https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-
               | eu/public-c...
        
               | tomtomistaken wrote:
               | Right, thanks for clearing it up!
        
           | wongarsu wrote:
           | There are funds by the EU, like Horizon Europe (which funds
           | research and innovative products). Those are obviously open
           | to the entire EU.
        
         | jacquesm wrote:
         | There is the EIF, of which many of these local funds are
         | recipients. Which country are you in?
        
           | mellifluousbox wrote:
           | Correct but I believe EIF rarely invests in startups/projects
           | directly. I may be wrong but I think they rather invest in VC
           | funds which then invest the money.
        
             | jacquesm wrote:
             | Precisely, hence my question, I know for most countries
             | which funds are the recipients of the EIF funds.
        
       | auggierose wrote:
       | > The project teams will receive up to EUR47,500 over six months
       | 
       | What a nice round number.
        
         | hansel_der wrote:
         | aka 95k a year, which is just short of the magic six-figures i
         | guess for political reasons.
        
           | DarylZero wrote:
           | Most of these kinds of funds aren't enough to be a salary at
           | all, intended as social validation tokens for people who
           | don't even need money.
        
             | Xylakant wrote:
             | This works out to just shy of 8000 EUR per month, enough to
             | fund two people on an acceptable salary for that time.
             | Folks with a sufficiently high profile could earn more on
             | the open market, but you can live of that in most regions
             | of germany.
        
               | csdummi wrote:
        
       | guerby wrote:
       | - French not for profit Framasoft (peertube & others)
       | https://framasoft.org/fr/ EN version https://framasoft.org/en/
        
       | axlpr wrote:
       | See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29682645, which
       | discusses another German fund that is apparently organized by
       | largely the same group of people.
       | 
       | That submission has been sinking (due to critical comments?).
        
       | ignoramous wrote:
       | See also:
       | 
       | - The Open Tech Fund (US): https://opentech.fund/
       | 
       | - FOSS Host (UK): https://fosshost.org/
       | 
       | - The NL Net Foundation (EU): https://nlnet.nl/
       | 
       | - The Calyx Institute (US):
       | https://calyxinstitute.org/projects/microgrants-and-small-pr...
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       | More:
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       | https://github.com/nayafia/microgrants
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       | https://github.com/ralphtheninja/open-funding
        
       | DarylZero wrote:
       | Wish they would fund projects that already exist and that have
       | years of unpaid effort already delivered. Instead they fund a
       | bunch of prototypes that will probably go nowhere.
        
         | Xylakant wrote:
         | That's the entire point of the prototype fund - there's another
         | technology fund that funds basic open source and
         | infrastructure.
        
           | ctrayx wrote:
           | The issue is not one of linguistic subtleties, but whether
           | the government should fund boondoggles at all. While
           | probably, at least judging by the pictures of the funded
           | projects, engaging in age discrimination.
        
             | Xylakant wrote:
             | > The issue is not one of linguistic subtleties, but
             | whether the government should fund boondoggles at all.
             | 
             | Most early tech and prototypes are considered "boondoggles"
             | at first. Some of them are. Some of them not. Some of them
             | may seem so to you, but I can tell that I have used at
             | least a handful of the projects on the list and have
             | personally supported at least one (without knowing that
             | they're prototype fund funded, or maybe they were not yet,
             | doesn't matter). And whether the government should have a
             | hand in funding public good software projects - who else
             | should?
             | 
             | > While probably, at least judging by the pictures of the
             | funded projects, engaging in age discrimination.
             | 
             | The age selection could also be just a natural consequence
             | of how the fund is set up. The funding is capped at less
             | than 50 000 EUR, which is a sum that's less interesting to
             | older people since they're more likely to have something
             | close to that in the bank. Applying isn't free - it costs
             | effort, so if you can fund without, it's attractive to do
             | so. Just alleging age discrimination without a shred of
             | proof isn't really reflecting good on your arguments.
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | That may be more in the model of prizes, such as the Ansari or
         | Ashden awards.
         | 
         | We need more of those too.
        
         | mellifluousbox wrote:
         | That's factually incorrect. Mastodon was funded by Prototype
         | Fund this year to develop new features. Mastodon was released
         | in 2016 and has more than 26k GitHub stars, so is quite clearly
         | way beyond being a prototype.
        
           | riffic wrote:
           | Mastodon's an amazing project, but there are many others that
           | exist in the space and are interoperable to some degree.
        
       | gumby wrote:
       | Surprise the web site is available in English.
        
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