[HN Gopher] Researchers forecast a hard-to-imagine West - one wi...
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Researchers forecast a hard-to-imagine West - one without snow
Author : neom
Score : 43 points
Date : 2021-12-26 18:16 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| tony_cannistra wrote:
| The recent Nature Reviews article that this article references :
| https://www.nature.com/articles/s43017-021-00219-y
| mistrial9 wrote:
| 264 cited references
| https://www.nature.com/articles/s43017-021-00219-y#Bib1
| grecy wrote:
| This is not something for the future, this is happening right
| now.
|
| Sitting on the chairlift in Canada just pre-covid it was a daily
| occurrence to talk to an American who had come up to Canada for a
| week because their local ski resort had no snow.
|
| They all said their resort used to get a ton, now it's lucky to
| get a foot for the whole season. This is a reality now.
|
| EDIT: Also worth mentioning the capital city of Alaska had zero
| recorded snowfall for an entire winter for the first time in
| recorded history. Yes, it's very real.
| ahelwer wrote:
| I grew up in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada. Right in the middle of
| the bare Canadian prairie and near Winnipeg, commonly called
| "Winterpeg". In my teenage years and during university (late
| 2000s, early 2010s) I could look forward to returning over
| Christmas and going for a skate at the outdoor skating oval or
| going cross-country skiing at some trails in the Brandon hills.
| Not so for the couple years prior to covid. I haven't returned
| during the pandemic but it also wouldn't have been possible to
| do winter outdoor sports if I had. Christmas is considered
| "early season" now I guess.
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| vmception wrote:
| Sometimes, more often than prior decades, but sometimes
| bryanrasmussen wrote:
| The great thing about the concept sometimes is it covers a
| few times, all but one or two times, and actually all the
| time.
| chrisco255 wrote:
| No, it's not:
| https://globalcryospherewatch.org/state_of_cryo/snow/fmi_swe...
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| Northern Hemisphere snow mass is one standard deviation above
| 1982-2012 average.
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| Anecdotal data points are meaningless in systems as complex and
| dynamic as weather.
| treis wrote:
| >This is not something for the future, this is happening right
| now.
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| What you're describing is due to the La Nina effect:
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| >La Nina could also worsen California's ongoing drought and
| make its wildfire season even more of a threat. As Bloomberg
| explains, the state usually gets most of its annual water from
| rain and snow between November and April -- the same period
| when La Nina is predicted to shift storm tracks north and away
| from the region that needs it.
|
| https://www.npr.org/2021/10/15/1046313870/la-nina-winter-wea...
| R0b0t1 wrote:
| Agree, my relatives have stories of Christmas in the 70s in
| the Midwest. And then sometimes there's ice storms. Extreme
| weather is not itself a good argument for climate change, you
| need to show you've bucked 100+ year trends (which has been
| done).
| BitAstronaut wrote:
| While we are in the process of getting dumped on here in
| Colorado, the lack of snow has been depressing so far.
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